Topic started by saketh vijayaraghavan (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on Sat Jul 12 14:32:56 EDT 1997.
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Responses:

• From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Sat Jul 12 14:47:24 EDT 1997
  
  I think it is Abogi
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 201-102-165.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 01:43:42 EDT 1997
  
  Other Abogi songs;
  
  Thangaradham vandhadhu - Kalaikoil - BmuraliK & PS
  Kalaiyae en vAzhkaiyin - Meenda Sorgam - AMraja PS
  
  Am I right?
  
  
• From: saketh vijayaraghavan (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Sun Jul 13 13:48:58 EDT 1997
  
  "kalaiye en vaazhkaiyin" (from "Meenda Sorgam") is in the ragam "Bagesri".
  
  other songs in Bagesri are "Nilave ennidam nerungadhae" (from "ramu"), "mayakkum maalai pozhudhae ni po po" (from "kule-bagavali"), "ponnezhil poothadhu pudhu vaanil" (from "kalangarai vilakkam"), "malarukku thendral pagaiyaanal" (from "enga veettu pillai").
  
  
• From: cp (@ host-207-53-1-99.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sun Jul 13 16:22:31 EDT 1997
  
  In the film "Ponnumani" the song "Nenjukkile innarunu sonnal puriyuma" is an excellent song. I would like to know on what ragam the song is based on. The song is a soul stirrer. It is sung by SPB and S.Janaki.
  
  
• From: cp (@ host-207-53-1-99.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sun Jul 13 17:00:12 EDT 1997
  
  In the film "Ponnumani" the song "Nenjukkile innarunu sonnal puriyuma" is an excellent song. I would like to know on what ragam the song is based on. The song is a soul stirrer. It is sung by SPB and S.Janaki.
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Sun Jul 13 22:02:29 EDT 1997
  
  Nenjukkulle is based on Mayamalava gowla (one of Ilaiyaraja's
  favourite scales)
  
  Another Abogi based song:
  kaalai nera poonguyil - Amman koyil kizhakkaale
  
  Abogi's scale is S R2 G2 M1 D2 . If you add N2, it becomes
  Sriranjani. The hindustani counterpart of Sriranjani is bagesri.
  Some people find it difficult to distinguish between Abogi and
  Sriranjani. But bageshri is quite distinct because of the way it
  is sung. "Nee ennenna sonnaalum kavidhai" is a beautiful
  Bageshri based song.
  For sriranjani, listen to
  
  thanthanthanimayil - a tail piece in the song "velli chathangaigal"
  from kaathal oviyam
  naatham ezhunthathadi - gopura vaasalile
  vanakkam palamurai sonnen - avan oru sariththiram
  and, of course
  naathamenum govilile - manmatha leelai
  
  
• From: saketh vijayaraghavan (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Tue Jul 15 18:09:04 EDT 1997
  
  what about the song "naanandri yaar varuvaar" from the movie "maalai-yitta mangai" (T.R.mahalingam's). I think it is sriranjani. it looks pretty much like thyagaraja's "Brochevaa-revare ragupathe". Am i correct?
  
  
• From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41) on: Thu Jul 17 00:07:56 EDT 1997
  
  Just a clarification. As Mr. Rajaraman points out the song 'Nenjukullae inarunnu' in Ponumani is tuned by IR in one of his favourite raga's.
  However, the raga is Keeravani and not Mayamalavagowlai.
  
  If you liked 'Nenjukullae'(Mr/Ms. cp@ host-207-53-1-99.atl.bellsouth.net) a very similar song in Keeravani by IR in a fairly recent Bhagyaraj movie (Rajakumari) is
  ' Azhagu nila kaayum aagayathin melay
  Amaithiyana neram oorungam vellai..'
  It is a thaalatu paatu and is great. Enjoy
  Shashi
  
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Mon Jul 21 21:01:49 EDT 1997
  
  Shashi,
  Isn't the line "...sonnaal puriyuma" correspond to G3 M1 G3 R1 S ?
  
  Coming to charanam, I see
  
  Ekkapattu pattu naan (in the upper octave)
  S R1 G3 M1 G3 R1 S
  
  IlaithEnE
  D1 N3 R1^ S^
  
  This line is enough to conclude the Mayamalava gowla scale.
  
  The difference between keeravaani and MMgowla lies in
  rishabam and ghandhaaram. (R2 G2 for the former and R1 G3
  for the latter.) Isn't this difference discernible from the very
  conspicuous jump from E to C# in the line "... puriyumaa"?
  
  
  
• From: kogi (@ ) on: Sat Sep 25 04:40:09 EDT 2004
  
  i love the song 'nenjukulle innarene' very much
  
  

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