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- From: samji (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Thu Sep 5 03:39:44 EDT 2002
Rajni's world of fantasy
Some reasons why you should watch Baba
N Narayana Raju
It is fun to see films like the Rajnikant-Manisha Koirala-starrer Baba, especially for those who are used to see films of Satyajit Ray, Felini, Herzog or, for that matter, even Stevan Spielberg. As long as the viewer does not view the cinematic presentation in an aesthetic sense, but as a medium for living fantasies.
While the entire film seems like Rajnikant's world of fantasy, there are some situations which can be anybody's fantasy. The actor has a real rags-to-riches and nobody-to-a-great-personality story. From a bus conductor to a cinematic legend in his own right and having an overbearing political influence, he embodies anybody's dream. He is also known for his benevolent character. He is not arrogant because of his riches. His arrogance is of a different nature --- a commanding position to influence Tamil Nadu's political scene.
Apparently, Rajnikant is not happy with the present political system in Tamil Nadu. His dream of an ideal socio-political system and fighting anti-social elements is often portrayed in his films. He also portrays himself as a human being unable to overcome earthly pleasures. For instance in Baba, in spite of coming to terms with philosophical pursuits, he is unable to quit smoking (what would happen to his stylish acting that fans adore were he to not smoke is a different issue). His gait is more sinuous than ascetic!
Baba is the story of an atheist, destined for a sudden twist of fate, as he is taken to the family guru, who lives in the Himalayas. He is taught a mantra (chant) that he can wish seven times to fulfil his needs. He wastes his first three wishes testing them. The fourth time, he wishes for a million rupees, which he gets as he saves a rich man's child. He gets a cheque that shows the amount as 10,000.00 (the right number of zeros, but a wrong punctuation at the wrong place). Here, Rajnikant demonstrates selflessness by using it for others.
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His fifth wish is a facelift of his neighbourhood and the sixth saves the life of the husband of a Japanese girl (whom he treats as sister). On his seventh wish, he becomes the Chief Minister. However, he decides to leave for the Himalayas to join his guru, but the assassination of the presiding Chief Minister makes him come back --- a signal that he might enter politics.
Rajnikant has scripted Baba. But it seems that the crew have neither understood the actor nor his script. Choreographers, the special effects team and stuntmen have failed Rajnikant. Right from his earlier films, there would always be some nativity in the dance numbers. But in Baba, he is made to dance like Michael Jackson even in a number where he has to invoke a Goddess' indulgence.
However, given the context of the film, one must ignore these and simply view Rajnikant's world of fantasy. Forget the technicians who have failed him. Rajnikant is na´ve and honest, at least in his cinematic approach.
Baba is watchable just for that.
- From: WN (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Thu Sep 5 09:06:50 EDT 2002
I liked ur Murugan analogy! LOL!
I'll chk out the $$ figure more carefully the next time I watch the movie.
And I like the way baba turns around and the swings around again unexpectedly at the ending u mentioned...and Sakthi Kodu was powerful there.
Kupps, I do not remember seeing SM co. tho i wasnt looking carefully. Alot of the songs were used in the bgm tho....Rajjyamma was almost used as bgm more than a song by itself, the Baba Rap & the Baba theme were also reserved as bgms for the exciting parts.
AY, u certainly shud watch the movie again in peace...it was good tat my group had an attentive crowd & a generous sprinkling of whistlers to give the we're-watching-a-rajini-movie feeling...but I'll be watching this movie at least a few more times..
CP, yes i liked the part wit Neelambari...really creative. Everyone was giggling uncontrollably.
And guess wat, I'm now hooked to the Kichu song!!!!
- From: vanavasi (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Sep 6 09:05:05 EDT 2002
ellam sariba, athenna thalaivar 'chaya chaya' nnu kathararu?
avar enna malayali tea master-a?
eppadiyo dhillu mullu-kku appuram comedy padam koduthirukkar1
- From: C~P (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Sep 6 12:23:44 EDT 2002
padam paartheengala illaiyaa?? .... chaya chaya part was wat WN was referin to earlier .... they give an explanation b4 that song sayin chaya is not kudikkira chaya....but nizhal (shadow)
hehe...i don blame u....padam paarpathurku munnadi naanum chaaya-na tea-nu thaan ninaichaen! :)) .... one of my friends went to the extent of thinkin that rajni is a tea master in the film! :)) ... ungala maathiri thaan ;)
- From: Genius (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Sep 6 13:14:14 EDT 2002
in which language, chaya=shadow ? hindi?
Pardon me here for 2 things:
1. I dont know Hindi; no plans to learn in the near future either.
2. I havent seen BABA; no plans to see in the near future either.. (determined not to)
- From: SirippuVarudhu (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Fri Sep 6 13:45:46 EDT 2002
I was going through the reviews for Baba music..
i came across several funny comments... one that it really made my day was... the following post..
The way he spells BABA in the beginning is the worse than the way T.Rajendar says THANGACHI.
DIfferent ways SM says baba
Written description of Dippu Dippu song
SM :Baubaaaaa (Horrible)
SM: Baubbaaaaaaaa (Horriblest - had to invent superlative adjective)
SM: mbbbbbbbruah (vennira adai moorthy style)
group: sinema sinema(not cinema)
group: sinema sinema
SM: PAAAAAAAAAAAAabaaa ( AGORAM )
SM: mbbbbbbbruah mbbbbbbbruah mbbbbbbbruah (vennira adai moorthy style)
SM: dippu dippu dippu dippukumare
Nalla sedhi solla poren dippukumare
dippu dippu dippu dippukumare
Nalla sedhi solla poren dippukumare
Veeeezkkai (not vazkkai) oru
(chorus) neram pola
kulandai (not kuzhandai) BARUVEM ondru
illamai PEARUVEM rendu
mudumai PAERUVAEM moondru
(chorus) Moondru theendu povadukkul
AYYODA SAMI IDHUKKU MELA ENNALA SIRIPPA ADAKKA MUDIYATHU... COMEDY SONG.. NOT MESSAGE sONG!!!
I tell you what message song is
"Maperum sabaigalil nee nadandal unakku malaigal vizha vendum
Oru Matru kuraiyadha mannavan iven ena potri pugazha vendum"
"Vatta Nilavinai viratti pidithu volleyball adidum vayasu"
Tamilan edhil sodai ponalum... sense of humorla sodai poha mattan
- From: C~P (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sat Sep 7 11:28:25 EDT 2002
yes yes hindi thaan
i wud call dat an exaggeration....ok agreed baba and all has been said differently....but not as paebaaa,baubaa and all.....also not BARUVAM,Veezhkai and all......SM obv cudnt have done as good a job as SPB....athukkaagaa ippadiya??!!! .... kathai kattuvathilum tamizhan (not tamilan!) sodai pogamaataan!
besides athu lagaan music ellam onnum illai ok-va?....i dunno wat made u think of such things
and now to ur point abt the message songs and stuff....wat i can tell u is that u have chosen some convenient part of the song!
"vaazhkai oru cinema cinema moondru mani naeram thaan....moondru mani naeram pola moondrae moondru paruvam thaan....kuzhanthai paruvam ondru ilamai paruvam raendu muthumai paruvam moondru"
"mmondru theernthu poavathurkul moondru ulagam vellavaa"
then 3 dif stages are expalined in the song....
"valimai valarka,uravai valarka,udalai valarka...ezhunthu vaaaa annai thanthai mathiththu,pozhuthu poakkai kuraiththu,buthi yellam valarthu....."
befor saying this its just sed how kuzhandhai is....appo thaan antha volley ball matter ellam varuthu!
"velai unnai thaedi varum-aa vaelai thaedi virainthu po-ooo,thadi sellum kaathal,kaathal illai nanba unmai kaathal sollavaa...nalla kaathal enbathenna thaedi vantha kaathaley"
before saying this....again....character of ilamai paruvam is explained....."thoonukkum saelai katti thottu paarkum vaysu!"
generally about how it is "muzhusa vaazhndha vayasu" .... "vantha velai mudithu indru vantha thalaimuraikku vazhtu solli padavae"
ithellam paartha message-a theriyaliyaa?? .... vaazhkaiya moonu stage-a pirichu azhaga explain pannirukkaanga.....besides intha kaalathu paattu don compare with antha kaalathu paattu .... quality different .... considering how other songs are(at present) this is surely a message paattu!
ungalukellam "aalthotta boopathi"......"O Podu"......"1 inch 2 inch"......intha maathiri paattu thaan layakku.....intha maathiri paattayum ippadi thaan solluveenga ..... ethaavathu solla ninaichaalum vidamaatteenga!.....etho onnu raendu appo ippo vanthaa porukkathu! NOM!
- From: cosmician (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sun Sep 8 00:45:49 EDT 2002
Good exposition of the song C-P :)
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