Paattum Naaney Baavamum Naaney - TM Soundararajan
Paattum Naaney Baavamum Naaney - TM Soundararajan
Topic started by NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on Tue Dec 16 02:24:31 EST 1997.
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- From: latha (@ 203.199.230.205)
on: Mon Dec 25 10:16:24 EST 2000
east are west vijaykanth is the best. vijaykanth is the peoples champ. after m.g.r tamil peoples support to purachikalingar vijaykanth
- From: rajiv (@ 203.199.230.138)
on: Sat Dec 30 05:36:38 EST 2000
vijaykanth and m.g.r are ths king of tamilnadu and tamilcinema
- From: kumar (@ 202.9.169.42)
on: Fri May 4 10:42:21 EDT 2001
Paavam! Indru Paatum Naaney, Bhaavamum Naaney - Paadi athai Kaetpathum Naaney! - TMS.
It is his fate to still survive listening to his singing and the current cine singers screeching.
Oh god! A singer with not even a single national award. He has to listen to Bhavadharinis National award song. That is his fate.
- From: kopula perumal subramanian (@ 202.71.159.161)
on: Sun Mar 24 14:01:45 EST 2002
By God's Grace, TMS's fate is great. He is in his early 80s, has the ability to perform over three hours at a stretch, be it carnatic or film music. of course, he shuns film music nowadays and concentrates on carnatic. Just listen to his cassette Tamil isai padaalgal, a pure classic. I think he recorded it some 20 years ago, apparently at the age of 60. Melody, nathaam, poise and control over voice and great rendition — you don't have to strain to catch the lyrics — emotions flow out and no damage done to the ragas. Unfortunately that is the only classical cassette he has released, though I was told that he had the released part 2 too.
Clearly I see a revival in his fortunes. For the first time, the State government has honoured with the post of chairman of Iyal, Isai, Nadaga Mandram.
Recently he was on Sun TV as the judge of the sapathswarangal finals. He chipped in with his film songs. He neither had notes nor the lyrics with him. Still he rendered the songs the way he had done decades ago — clearly a man of perfection.
Yes, TFM has seen tens of singers. Of late they just come and go. Recently I read on the net that Jayachandran was the best singer to sing tamil songs. No doubt, jayachandran's tamil is hundred times better than KJ. But he can never anywhere near TMS, who can infuse life to words, not just sing a lyric. For him, the bhavam is equally important.
Just show me one singer who is comfortable with all ranges. Even Md Rafi used to choke when he reached the octave. Once I heard that Rafi had a great regard for TMS's songs. I was told that when Rafi was at the AVM studio, he had a chance meeting with TMS. That was probably after TMS had song oor aaiyram paarvailee unn paarvaie naan aryven. Rafi had hugged TMS, planted a kiss on the neck and exclaimed What a voice! You are born to sing.
But the pity is nowadays petty minded are ruling the roost. They obviously get to the top by hook or crook. A couple years ago, I heard KJ reluctantly acknowledge TMS as a singer. Of course, TMS doesn't need his recognition. His VOICE will reverberate for ever. It's like Truth always prevails.
Jealous people always said TMS was an arrogant man. Go and meet him you will easily find out how wrong they were all.
He is very pious, leads an austere life and always involved in music. Sometimes he is so introvert, he can easily think he has an air of arrogance.
In one of the interviews, PS was asked whether she modulated her voice for different actress. She said she did not make any conscious effort. When the question turned on TMS's assertion that he did modulate his voice, she kept mum, apparently did not want to get into controversy, and diplomatically said he could have done it.
I just don't understand why we need singers like PS and KJ to confirm whether TMS did what he had said. Don't we have ears for music? Can't we just check it out? Are we so dumb?
It will be foolishly if you say he modulated his voice for just Sivaji and MGR. You can easily distinguish his rendition for Jai Shankar, Ravichandran, sivakumar, AVM Rajan and so on.
Why from the very first note you can feel mood of the song. Even if TMS reads a sentence, that can easily pass off as a song. For the variety, you name any you can have it — the navarasam, I mean. Who can do better than his western classical songs?
I have heard single-dimensional singers, including the great Sirkazhi, crib about their greatness. Do I have to say people should get respect, not ask for it?
One more incident pops up in mind when I thought of national awards. When SPB was getting honoured for bagging a national award for Shankarabaranam, he had a check to tell one of the guests of honour Telugu great A Nageswar Rao that he was so proud to 'win' the award so young, meaning ANR had to struggle for his award. And the prompt reply seemed to have been "I don't beg awards, they are conferred on me."
Anyway generations come and go. Soon there will be a generation which will the ears for music. It will certainly pay TMS the honours he richly deserves. Don't worry, Time always changes for the better for the sincere, dedicated artists.
To sum up, I can quote a question and answer: What is the difference between TMS and Sirkazhi. Answer: Sirkazhi can sing a song, while TMS's voice can act.
- From: karthick (@ 203.199.225.183)
on: Tue Feb 25 01:56:10 EST 2003
hello
- From: DAVID PAKKIYAM (@ 81.136.213.218)
on: Wed Aug 20 02:30:06 EDT 2003
I was lucky i had the chance to sing with the greatest singer TM at the Jaffna muththaveli(stadium) and sang with him parappa palaniyappa pattanamaam pattanamaam oorappa periyathappa ullamthaan siriyathappa from the film periya idaththu penn.
it was a great moment for me. at that time i was a student at jaffna hindu college. you can imagine how my principal was excited about my performance. god bless TM.
- From: DAVID PAKKIYAM (@ 81.136.209.179)
on: Fri Aug 22 19:58:40 EDT 2003
_---MY TOP TEN TMS SONGS ARE AS FOLLOWS---------
1-OLI MAYAMAANA EDHIR KAALAM (PACHCHAI VILAKKU)
2-AVANUKKENNA THOONGIVITTAAN (PERIYA IDATHTHU PENN)
3-VIDIYUM VARAI PESALAAM (JAI SHANKAR'S FILM)
4-NAANORU KULANDAI ( PADAHOTTI )
5-NAAN ENNA SOLLI VITTEN (PALE PAANDIYA)
6-ACHCHAM ENPADHU MADAMAYADAA )
7-ULAHAM IDHILE ADANGUDHU ( KULAMAHAL RADAI )
8-UNMAI ANBIN URUVAI ( PAAKTHAATH THIRUDAN )
9-ULAHAM PIRANDHADHU ENAKKAAHA ( PAASAM )
10-YAARADEE NEE MOHINEE ( UTHTHAMA PUTHTHIRAN )
-------------------------------------------------- WHO CAN BEAT THESE SONGS IN THIS WORLD
- From: DAVID PAKKIYAM (@ 81.136.132.140)
on: Thu Aug 28 10:07:22 EDT 2003
20 OTHER TOP HITS OF TMS AND NOT IN THE ORDER OF PRIORITY.IT IS VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO RATE THEM THEY ARE ALL EQUALLY GOOD.
SONG-----------------------FILM-----------------
1-ORU PENNAI PAARTHU------THEIVA THAI
2-MOONRELUTHIL EN MOOCHU-- "
3-PUDHU NAADAHATHIL-------OOTIVARAI URAVU
4-HELLO MISS HELLO MISS---EN KADAMAI
5-VELLI NILA MUTTATHILE---VETTAIKAARAN
6-PUDHIYA VAANAM----------ANBE VAA
7-ODUM MEHANKALE----------AAYIRATHIL ORUVAN
8-SATTI SUTTADHADAA-------AALAYAMANI
9-KAN PONA POKKILEY-------PANAM PADAITHAVAN
10-ORUTHAI MAKKAL NAAM----AANANDA JODHI
11-DINGIRI DINGALE--------ANBU ENGE
12-ATHTHAI MAHAL----------PANAKKARA KUDUMBAM
13-NADAYAA IDHU NADAYAA---ANNAI ILLAM
14-PARAVAIHAL PALAVIDHAM--IRUVAR ULLAM
15-THOONGAADHE THABI------NAADODI MANNAN
16-KANNIL VANDHU MINNAL--- "
17-YAAR ANDHA NILAVU------SHAANTHI
18-ENGE NIMMADHI----------PUDHIYA PARAVAI
19-ULLAM ENPADHU AAMAI----PAARTHAAL PASI THEERUM
20-PALLAVAN PALLAVI-------KALANKARAI VILAKKAM
- From: David Pakkiyam (@ 81.136.204.111)
on: Wed Sep 24 02:17:14 EDT 2003
well said kopula perumal subramaniyam
of course we don't need others' opinion to find out whether TMS is a great singer or not. We have ears and we know that he is THE singer.My opinion is mine and it is upto others to keep their opinion.
what a feeling of the mood when he sang "ennai yaarenru enni enni nee paarkirai ithu yaar paadum paadal enru nee ketkinrai"
"malarthum malaraatha paathi malarpole "
- From: David Pakkiyam (@ 81.136.204.111)
on: Wed Sep 24 02:18:32 EDT 2003
well said kopula perumal subramaniyam
of course we don't need others' opinion to find out whether TMS is a great singer or not. We have ears and we know that he is THE singer.My opinion is mine and it is upto others to keep their opinion.
what a feeling of the mood when he sang "ennai yaarenru enni enni nee paarkirai ithu yaar paadum paadal enru nee ketkinrai"
"malarthum malaraatha paathi malarpole "
- From: james (@ 213.42.2.21)
on: Sun Feb 1 06:24:27 EST 2004
why should there be always a dispute as to TMS' greatness. undoubtedly he is the greatest singer Tamil Nadu has ever known. it is quite unfortunate some petty minded tamils do not recognise greatness. the fast trend in tamil songs unquestionably has lost its originality-lost long long ago-perhaps as long ago as 20 years when the veteran TMS paved way to new talents. he had inimitable and majestic voice. SPB had to wait for such a long time that one pities his having to wait for TMS became old. as long as his voice was strong he was indomitable and invincible. he was such a faithful artiste that though he had superb voice matching many actors he never thought of singing in any other language. that means he worshipped tamil language. now everyday sun tv and jaya tv telecasts his songs atleast for one hour a day. that shows his relevance even nearly 20 years after he stopped singing. it is simple impudence some meanminded musicians caused his downfall simply because he couldn/t be coaxed to sing according to their foolish fancy. he had his own style and he had a successful career of 35 years or so when some music directors came to the lime light. how can a man with experience more than the new musicians age can just meekly yield to persuasions to assassinate the natural charm of music. but he had to lose in the battle. but definitely time is a heeling factor. time will show the real quality. i am sure TMS' songs will stand the test of time
- From: james (@ 213.42.2.21)
on: Sun Feb 1 06:29:31 EST 2004
why should there be always a dispute as to TMS' greatness. undoubtedly he is the greatest singer Tamil Nadu has ever known. it is quite unfortunate some petty minded tamils do not recognise greatness. the fast trend in tamil songs unquestionably has lost its originality-lost long long ago-perhaps as long ago as 20 years when the veteran TMS paved way to new talents. he had inimitable and majestic voice. SPB had to wait for such a long time that one pities his having to wait for TMS to become old. as long as his voice was strong he was indomitable and invincible. he was such a faithful artiste that though he had superb voice matching many actors he never thought of singing in any other language. that means he worshipped tamil language. now everyday sun tv and jaya tv telecast his songs atleast for one hour a day. that shows his relevance even nearly 20 years after he stopped singing. it is simple impudence some meanminded musicians caused his downfall simply because he couldn't be coaxed to sing according to their foolish fancy. he had his own style and he had a successful career of 35 years or so when some music directors came to the lime light. how can a man with experience more than the new musician's age can just meekly yield to persuasions to assassinate the natural charm of music. but he had to lose in the battle. but definitely time is a heeling factor. time will show the real quality. i am sure TMS' songs will stand the test of time
- From: E Rathakrishnan (@ 203.200.95.130)
on: Fri Mar 26 22:54:58 EST 2004
There are no words to praise the musical talent of TMS even in the rich Tamil. His songs are treaure to Tamil music. After TMS the Tamil flim industry is yet to see a singer. What I mean is SPB, KJ, etc. cannot be rated as singers. They are just filling the movies with some low level songs which die even before the movie closes. Also, I feel it is too ambitious to aspire another singer of TMS caliber, since great talents are created by GOD only rerely.
- From: E Rathakrishnan (@ 203.200.95.130)
on: Fri Mar 26 22:59:40 EST 2004
In my response, the last word is rarely and not rerely.
- From: dr.sundaresan MBBS.,D.Ortho (@ 66.119.33.154)
on: Sun Jun 20 11:23:37 EDT 2004
ofcourse no doubt TMS is a marvellous singer.But,we need not criticize other lovely singers like SPB,KJY.they too have served beautiful songs.Please try to appreciate others also from your heart.
I will rate the singers like this:
1.TMS
2.Sirgali govindarajan
3.SPB
4.KJY
5.PBS
6.Chidambaram Jayraman
7.AM raja
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