Topic started by Ramki (@ ucc222.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on Wed Sep 3 14:13:18 EDT 1997.
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• From: Ramki (@ ucc222.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Wed Sep 3 14:25:00 EDT 1997
  
  when carefully listening to Vairamuthus songs
  it can be realise that he has repeated some words
  very often. Few egs
  
  ABC nee vasi song(oru kaidhiyin dairy)has a line
  like
  
  Aaha aanandham
  poovukkul bookambam
  
  (this is a happy kaadhal song)
  
  Kannil enne kaargalam(un kannil neer vazhindhal)
  song also has a similar line
  
  poovukkul bookambam
  endrum varum aanandham
  
  This is supposed to be a soga song. But rendu
  contextleyum he uses the word poovukkul
  bookambam . What he implies by this is aandavanukku dhan velicham.
  
  Some more songs of VM that has similar words:
  
  thalaatu maari ponadhe(unnai naan sandhiten):
  
  kanneeril sandhosham naaldhorum kangiren
  
  Vaanam arugil oru vaanam(nyaya tharasu)
  
  kanneerille sandhoshama
  
  nilavondru kanden en jannalil(kairasikkaran)
  
  Naan ingu naanalla
  
  oh en vaanile oru vennila(unakkagavae vazhgiren)
  
  Naan andha neram naanaga illai
  
  
  Kannalanae(Bombay)
  
  puyal edhirthidum or ilai pole
  
  oru mani adithal(kaalamellam kaadhal vazhga)
  
  veesidum puyal kaatrile naan otrai siragaanen
  
  There are many such repititions which i think
  u guys must have also noticed. Do add it here
  and we can make a lengthy thread i guess:)
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Sep 4 03:06:13 EDT 1997
  
  I think list will be longer than the 'SPB' list. Vairamuththuvin pEththalkaLaip pattiyal iduvathu avvaLavu sulapamaa?
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Thu Sep 4 04:32:30 EDT 1997
  
  Ramki - I think your idea is very good. Except for one thing, one would have to pay great attention to the lyrics of all the songs. Inthe kaalathuleh yaaru avvalavu unnippa paateh kekuraanga?
  
  Over to the rest of you for your contributions....
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Thu Sep 4 07:49:49 EDT 1997
  
  Of late there has been a proliferation of words like 'desiya geedham' and 'desiyak kodi' in many songs. I'm not sure they are penned byt Vairamuthu. Hope this has something to do with India's 50th independance anniversary.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ucc205.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Thu Sep 4 09:20:54 EDT 1997
  
  Ravy even Vaali has started using those
  'desiya'words often. Few egs
  
  Song:En manadhai kollai adithavalae(kalloori veesal)
  
  Neengamal nenjil irukkum
  un peyar dhan ingu
  Desiya geetham enakku
  
  Song: konja naal poru thalaiva(Aasai)
  
  Desiya kodi pole kuthi vachen nenjukkule
  
  But idhellam partha Desiya patru madhiri
  theriyalai
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ b224.bernhard.wmich.edu) on: Sat Sep 6 12:04:49 EDT 1997
  
  One more repitition:
  
  Boomi meedhu poovizhndhaal osai enne ketkuma(a line from 'kaalam maaralam'song in Vazhkkai)
  
  Pullodu poovizhum osai ketkum pennae(vennilavae
  vennilavae from current dreams)
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140) on: Sun Sep 7 20:03:08 EDT 1997
  
  Dia-Mandu 's favorite ..
  
  Viyarvai .. (Vairamuthu is obsessed with this word)
  
  Thegam
  
  Vedhanai ,.,Sodhanai combination
  
  Aadhari.. Madhiri..
  
  Kanneer Jaathi
  
  Aavi..
  
  Kalavaram
  
  PoovukuL Poogambam..
  
  
  
• From: Rex (@ cse-211-f02.circa.ufl.edu) on: Mon Sep 8 18:32:38 EDT 1997
  
  `Mandu' Kavingnarukku romba piditha vaarthai MACHHAM. You can very often hear his songs with hero singing about MACHHAM (mole). Do you want the song list? No.. it is left to the participants of the forum to come up with that list.
  
  
• From: SSatya (@ ) on: Thu Oct 19 05:30:05 EDT 2000
  
  hello,
  antha 'machham' than iyyavai intrum
  
  ula vitu kondu iruukiradhu... innum
  
  ethanni nall ...kavi arsyu kannadasanai vizunga oru kavi
  perarasu vandhadu polla ivarukkum oru
  kavi perrrrrrrrrraraaaaaaaaaaasssssssssu
  varamala pogamattan... avan solluvan
  ivarai patri.....thegam verkka,,vedhanai
  sodhnai...junnal ( windows) thirakka vediyadu dan..
  
  
  
  
• From: fatimah banu bt. shahul hameed (@ 202.188.10.11) on: Tue Dec 19 01:23:32 EST 2000
  
  can i have all the lyrics which musik by a.r.rahman
  
  
• From: Tholkappian (@ 198.22.131.1) on: Fri Jan 26 17:14:55 EST 2001
  
  hello ramki,
  r u a student of Liyoni...it seems so while reading your comments. it is not so easy to write the songs for the same situation again and again..
  one morething is u just don't see only words pay some attention to situation...u can find very good lines from his luric...if u want i can give those...he is one of the best lyric writer india ever produced...
  
  
• From: Tholkappian (@ 198.22.131.1) on: Fri Jan 26 17:15:03 EST 2001
  
  hello ramki,
  r u a student of Liyoni...it seems so while reading your comments. it is not so easy to write the songs for the same situation again and again..
  one morething is u just don't see only words pay some attention to situation...u can find very good lines from his luric...if u want i can give those...he is one of the best lyric writer india ever produced...
  
  
• From: prabhakar p (@ 210.212.249.40) on: Tue Apr 3 11:22:59 EDT 2001
  
  I am also wondered many times tat vairamuthu repeating the words like the naal kanakku,manikanakku,nimishakanakku..the few examples are here
  
  nimishangal ovvonrum varushangal aagum
  nee ennai neengi senralae
  varushangal ovvonrum nimishangal aagum
  nee endhan pakkam vandhalae
  (ennai kaana villayae netrodu - kadhal desam)
  
  before that Vaali in Thalapathi used like this
  
  Varangalum madham aagum neeyum ennai neenginal..
  madhangalum varam aagum nanun marbil thoonginal
  (sundari kannal oru sethi..)
  
  this is the one i know rightnow..but if u keep on watching his song u will come to know these words repeating again and again
  
  
  
• From: unknown (@ 1cust33.tnt2.seattle2.wa.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jul 15 20:36:16 EDT 2001
  
  guys give these poets a break.. they are writing for films.. and how many words do they have after all to juggle with..actually in this commotion if they give some 10 songs which are good I think they have made their mark and mr vm has definitely done much more than that.... nobody is going to give them nobel prize for this like neruda or tagore.. it is their living.. so they beter churn out fast poems.. and so repetition bound to occue..afterall they themslevs cant keep track of it..
  
  
• From: thanikachalam (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Tue Jul 24 15:44:01 EDT 2001
  
  please provide me with a link to download[ download and not only listen]'kannalanae' from 'Bombay'. mp3 or ra file
  
  
• From: Thambi (@ 203.197.143.2) on: Sun Jul 29 02:19:36 EDT 2001
  
  Hello ramki and prabakar,
  when he writes lyrics for movie he is a ordinary
  worker. his imagination is restricted by the situation. But when he writes "kavithaigal"..he is
  a owner..he writes as he like. But i don't think there, he is repeating the words. ex. read his work.." thanner thesam" "kallikattu ithigasam"
  they r awesome. world class quality. bloody stop
  criticising the great poet. i haven't read much about "barathy's" work. he is great one. But his words i'm not able understand. but i can understand 'ezhiya' nadai of kaviyarsu. of course i'm not comparing these two. vairamuthu is one of
  barathy's child.
  
  Vazhka tamil, and kaviyarasu...
  
  
• From: Krishnamoorthy (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Wed Jan 30 03:36:44 EST 2002
  
  Friends,
  
  Kavipperasai vimarsikka nammakku enna thaguthi irukkirathu? Kavipperarasu endru Tamil nattu arasanggame oppukkonda pin... avanai vimarsikkalama? Muthalil, avan Tamilan... athilum avan oru sirantha kavingan... atharkkum mel.. avan oru nalla manithan... Vaazhga avan pughal..
  valargha avan thondu!
  
  Kavinyane...
  Un kavithaigalil
  karaithuponavargalil naanum oruvan...
  
  puthukkavithai enum
  puthiya uli kondu
  sethukkinaalum..
  nee sethukkiyathu
  Sigharathai allavaaa..?
  
  Neethane sonnai..
  "kuraighal nuraighal...
  Karai kilikkum vellathil
  nuraghal vanthe theerum endru"
  Intha vimarsana nuraighalai
  Vishamaagha alla...
  unakku urammaakkikkol...
  kavinyane...
  
  
• From: sengottuvel.s (@ 210.210.35.242) on: Wed Jun 26 02:38:28 EDT 2002
  
  Also our poet uses the word "jannal"in many songs
  "santhana thendralei jannalhal "(kandukondein)
  "Kannane nee varaKaathirunthein ,jannalai paarthirun"(thendralee ennai thodu)
  april maathathil nilaa,nilla(vaali)
  
  
• From: valli (@ 202.71.146.25) on: Wed Sep 3 02:24:45 EDT 2003
  
  hello
  
  
• From: nyyankeefan (@ 130.245.244.140) on: Fri Oct 24 11:34:15 EDT 2003
  
  can someone please put up a link that allows me to download kannalanae ive been looking for the tamil version but have gotten nothing
  
  
• From: Carthy (@ 203.199.202.97) on: Fri Nov 21 05:46:55 EST 2003
  
  Senguttuvel,
  
  Suppose if you want to see outside form your house your very first option to see will be your jannal.Kaathu(WIND) jannal valiya thaan varum(santhana teNral varathu jannal valiyaa varaama ootu valiyaava varum?). Yaaravathu road la nadanthu poona ootta pericha paapeenga. Illa close panni irukara kathava thernatha paapeenga? illa oru figure poona jannala thaana paakareenga.(athaan vairamuthum jannala paakaraaru). Meaning fulla paatu ezhuthunaalea ippadi na???? Stop commenting him first. Read his kavithai books like " Sigarangalai Nooki" and "Sirpiyea unnai sethukukirean" .....
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ 203.124.0.246) on: Sun Nov 23 08:40:32 EST 2003
  
  Guys,
  
  If u want to appreciate some of VM's original kavithai, read his books like inda pookal virpanaikalla. If u want to get his tamil flair, read "Vill odu vaa nilave" VM is the undisputed king. Irundalum sila nerangalil, he runs out of ideas, as remarked by our friend, after all scope is limited in tamil cinema, and he gets into listing mode, Like the aasai song in Roja, Ayagu song, Vendum song in Thiruda Thriruda etc
  
  
• From: arpudaraj (@ 61.1.206.197) on: Wed Dec 10 02:28:54 EST 2003
  
  where can i view all kavithaigal of vairamuthu
  
  
• From: arpudaraj (@ 61.1.206.197) on: Wed Dec 10 02:41:01 EST 2003
  
  HULLO RAMKI. VAIRAMUTHU IS REALLY GENIUS. DON'T WRITE LIKE THIS.
  
  KAVINGANE
  UN KAVITHAIGALAI PADITHEN
  APPAPPA
  UN VIRALIN ITUKILE
  SIKKIKONDATHARKAI
  ANTHA PENAVAI
  URUVAKKIYAVAN
  KARVAPATTU KOLLALAM
  
  I LOVE YOU & YOUR WORDS.
  
  PENNE NAN UNNAI
  KANAMAL IRUNTHIRUNTHAL
  VAIRAMUTHAVAIYUM
  VAALIYAYUM
  IVVALAU ADHIGAMAI
  VIRUMBI
  IRUNTHIRUKKA MATTEN.
  
  THANKS
  
  
• From: arun (@ 210.212.253.194) on: Thu Mar 25 04:59:42 EST 2004
  
  Vairamuthu!
  un amudha surabiyaik kudittha pinnum en atsaya paathiratthin pasi adangavillai.
  Vairamuthu unakku indhap peyar eedaagaadhu.
  
  
• From: Dave (@ 202.188.127.61) on: Mon May 17 04:25:17 EDT 2004
  
  anyone knows the kavithai 'Kadhaliche Paar'
  which movie is it from ?
  
  
• From: JerryJo (@ 210.18.114.3) on: Tue Dec 21 05:05:54 EST 2004
  
  It is from Vairamuthus's "Indha pookal virpanaiku alla".
  
  

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