Topic started by 1999 (@ 18.104.22.168) on Mon Nov 1 10:02:46 EST 2004.
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Shankar is a Fool because he didn't take A.R.Rahman for ANNIYAN. Shankar-A.R.Rahman Combination is always a Hit.All people who read this Message go to this Pages, listen to the Songs there and then tell me if Shankar is a Fool or not.
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- From: Jacky (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Sun Nov 14 02:26:00 EST 2004
"But, he belongs to the mould of composers who like to compose and orchetrize his pieces"
You must listen to Kraftwerk’s Robots and IR’s Vikram song, the electronic bits are eerily similar.
- From: xml (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sun Nov 14 05:45:17 EST 2004
No problem dear shankar fans.Now shankar is working with HJ.Definitely he will become intelligent now.He will not work with ARR any more.He don't want to become fool again.That is great.
- From: raj (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sun Nov 14 08:16:19 EST 2004
good one to cut the crap ir vs arr xml.
- From: thumburu (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sun Nov 14 08:27:55 EST 2004
You guys have exposed nothing but your ignorance in music by belittling the MDs. Admin, please put an end to foolish threads like this.
- From: Guess Me (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sun Nov 14 08:30:32 EST 2004
"You guys have exposed nothing but your ignorance in music by belittling the MDs. Admin, please put an end to foolish threads like this."
No one is perfect my friend. Bringing out the weak side of MDs is no crime. And if you think this is a foolish thread, just get out of here. The admins know what to do.
- From: Note Man (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Sun Nov 14 13:07:45 EST 2004
" Kraftwerk’s Robots and IR’s Vikram song, the electronic bits are eerily similar"
The initial robot voice is the only bits I found similar. Rest of the song is totally different ( I have listened to Kraftwerk's Man Machine).
In fact, the robot voice was used in many movies and TV series before, for 'mechanical man' kind of characters, e.g., the robot on 'Lost in Space' TV series. Don't start off with the 'similarity' thing here, you have to take it up in 'Copying in TFM History Thread'
How is this for similarity contests? 'Quiet man' in reflections of passions (yanni) has a beat pattern very close that of 'pudhu vellai mazhai' .. Roja, main beat pattern.
There is no point in trying to come up with useless similarities. Though I myself am guilty of trying to prove that ARR copied from so and so. But now I am convinced that he may use bits and pieces of music, but he definitely composes his own tunes, which is good enough for me. For more info, read the history of ARR and why he set up his recording studio and what is so special about that studio.
During IRs time such concepts were not in vogue and in any case, his mentality is such that he wants to everything on his own (composing, conducting and orchestrizing). Such people don't like to use readymade products, its their psychology in general. Thats why I said that he is one those people who like to compose their own music.
And, as a tail-piece, it might as well have been ARR who programmed that piece in Vikram.
- From: cho (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Sun Nov 14 19:13:41 EST 2004
I wish I had time to respond to your lengthy post...unga response-i quotes-kulla pottu, athukku naan reply ezhuthi... niraiya panniyaachu... weekend is very precious..
Anyway, if you read my posts, I never said that Roja was a crappy album.. all I said was that it did not overtake IR's previous album...Secondly you shouldn't say that comparing narumugaye with thangamagan is an insult to all those percussionists... I hope you just blindly wrote and realized it later...Narumugaye wasn't that great not to be compared to anything else...And do not underestimate Deva. It's true that he is a copy-cat but sometimes, he too came out with some interesting stuff like thangamagan...
And about tecnho stuff... there is a lot I wanted to write... will do when I find time and patience... just for a starter.. think about it's nativity... and how bad it is to replace the whole archestra with a keyboard and a PC loaded with software... you can automate anything with a computer but not the 'art of composing music'... where do you think all these no-talented-no-brainer MDs such as praveen mani, dheena, srikanth-deva, d-iman etc etc.. came from? How do they manage to produce a song without any basic knowledge of ragas and swaras... When was the last time a pure and original tamil song composed by an MD?. Fanna is a bad sign.. I hope you know what I am trying to say here...
- From: Hahahahahahahaha (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sun Nov 14 22:30:13 EST 2004
- From: Guess Me (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Mon Nov 15 01:52:55 EST 2004
"you can automate anything with a computer but not the 'art of composing music'"
Not just anyone. Only someone with good knowledge can automate without spoiling the song.
And like most people, I prefer the art - music to the art of composing music. i.e. I dont bother how a song is composed as long as it is good.
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