Topic started by bb (@ 188.8.131.52) on Wed Jul 7 00:37:21 EDT 2004.
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Saravanan is starting a new series on V.Kumar, titled 'V.Kumar: Malarum NinaivugaL'. He has been in touch with V.Kumar's wife and son and is planning a comprehensive series of articles on V.Kumar. I am sure this will be a treat for VK fans. This will also feature unique introductions to the songs by V.Kumar himself, in his own voice. Thanks to Govind and VK's family for their help on this.
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- From: raj (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Thu Oct 21 04:13:27 EDT 2004
Wonderful Write up asusual!
Moothaval nee koduthai leaves behind such an impact which cant be explained in words.
VK-PS-KD taking the credit
Thanks once again
- From: Da Vinci (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Thu Oct 21 10:48:13 EDT 2004
It is nice to read how integral a part of a movie a Music Director was in those times, though his recognition is much lesser compared to the movies today.
I liked the quote from Balachandar on the role of film songs.
- From: GK (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Thu Oct 21 11:34:07 EDT 2004
What a touching movie. Great songs and a great
- From: app_engine (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Thu Oct 21 12:42:05 EDT 2004
Anti-IR group in this forum often quote about IR's ego clash with KB, often painting IR as the haughty...now what are they going to tell about this episode of KB with VK, one recognized as a `humble' composer?
- From: Saravanan (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Oct 22 10:47:36 EDT 2004
Thanks Sathya Kabali, raj, Da Vinci and GK, for your encouragement.
Sathya Kabali, thank you for your big help in making me understand the film better!
- From: mythila (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Fri Oct 22 11:47:26 EDT 2004
"arambha kaalathil bayamirukkum" paatilla
SPB kuralla kooda oru bayam irukkara maadhiri irukke!!!
- From: SK (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Fri Oct 22 13:07:43 EDT 2004
nalla mudivu kodukka dairiyam illaadha kOzai yenbadhai padaththin mudivu moolammagavum,
nalla natpaip pORRa theriyaadha suyanalami yenbadhai VK-vai nadaththiyadhin moolamum KB niroobiththadhai nanRAga thugil urindhu kaattiya SaravaNanukku nanRi!
Perhaps that "digressor' had a point there!
- From: vengayam (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sat Oct 23 01:05:09 EDT 2004
So that is the reason for the split.It is sad that when a partnership breaks one takes the high road leaving the other.. V Kumar may be because of his shy nature couldn't go asking for movies and without KB was left with whatever work that came his way ;-(
- From: OISG (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Sat Oct 23 12:35:59 EDT 2004
Drawing parallels between VK-KB incident with IR-KB may throw us back to earlier "kaLarpirar"days.(( Now VK's career is getting mapped well chronologically.Lets not disturb it by bringing in KB-IR fracas;for all we know that VK remained a humble and honest personality throughout his career.
As a consistent & loyal KB-basher this is my humble request!
- From: thumburu (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Sat Oct 23 14:05:21 EDT 2004
'As a consistent & loyal KB-basher', IR is a glaring omission -))
- From: Lokesh (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sun Oct 24 01:35:06 EDT 2004
How much more nostalgic it would have been if you had also given details about the time when you first came accross these movies!
In case of Arangetram, for example, if you had recounted as when did you (belatedly) watch the movie (you could not have come accross it in 73 as a 3 year-old) and the initial reaction to it, that would have redoubled the enjoyment. It means so much to us,the nostalgic buffs of the 1970s and 80s.
- From: Saravanan (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sun Oct 24 15:43:42 EDT 2004
Lokesh, since I don't want the focus to wander too much from VK and his songs, I don't digress much!
I saw Arangetram only on TV, around 12 years back. I had never seen it before.
As you said I was too young when it was released. The first movie that I was taken to watch was aatukkara alamelu, and I loved both Alamelu & Ramu, not necessarily in that order :)
My first glimpse of arangetram was M.N.Rajam's malarum ninaivugal, sometime in the late 70s. She was interviewed by novelist Usha Subramaniam. Rajam spoke about the role of Visalam in arangetram, and the scene that was shown was terrible sequence where she makes a paste of arali vidhai in the dark. The expressions on her face sent a chill down my spine!
I saw moondru mudichu sometime in the early 80s. And as Mythila had also recalled the climax of arangetram was shown in MM. I became curious about the film and asked my periamma (the only film fan in my family) about its story. She didn't seem ver comfortable about telling the story :) The outline she gave was that it was about a girl who sacrifices everything for her family. That put me off as it seemed just like another sob story.
But when I did get to watch it finally, I was shaken by the brutal starkness of the theme :(
- From: sk (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sun Oct 24 23:03:17 EDT 2004
Though I haven't commented anything, I have tremendously enjoyed your material on arangEtram.
Do plan to digress whenever you can! Even the last bit that you have written in response to Lokesh is so very interesting to read!
"Alamelu & Ramu, not necessarily in that order"... very nice!
The same Alamelu and Gajendra in annai Or Alayam were indistinguishible. :)
- From: Saravanan (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Mon Oct 25 02:02:54 EDT 2004
- From: thumburu (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Mon Oct 25 14:25:25 EDT 2004
Saravavan, appidiye unga personal life experiences aiyum appappo thoovungo . We are eager readers like sk
- From: vengayam (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Mon Oct 25 14:38:02 EDT 2004
vengayathin sabathai pidiyungal! for that casual comment "Alamelu and Gajendra in annai Or Alayam " ;-(
Aatukkara alamelu is fondly rememembered by me for another reason (apart from the obvious one!) my parents took me to the movie as a break from studies - vaada oru three hours relax pannalaam-bang during my matric exams (public) . Even in the late seventies our neighbours konjam aaditaanga ! at my father's confidence in his son. That I repaid his confidence then and almost floundered a year later is another story!!
- From: bb (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Wed Oct 27 03:12:07 EDT 2004
There will be no update this week. This will continue from next week.
- From: sk (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Wed Oct 27 13:15:51 EDT 2004
Alamelu, if I remember right, made a steady growth (in size, I mean) from the middle 70's to the late 70s. I missed seeing most Tamil movies in the 80's because I went abroad. Then the next I saw her was in a SUN TV serial called "Chinna Papa Periya Papa" and was shocked. She seemed to have done an exponential growth in the 80s and 90s! :))))
I am sure everyone here will be disappointed not seeing Saravanan's weekly thodar. Is it because of Saravanan's laziness or your laziness? :))
- From: bb (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Thu Oct 28 14:55:49 EDT 2004
V.Kumar - Malarum NinaivugaL has moved to DhooL.
From now on, future articles in the series and discussions will be posted at http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/ .
Please visit the new forum for future updates.
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