Topic started by Savukkadi Singaram (@ 184.108.40.206) on Fri Aug 25 16:18:40 EDT 2000.
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Thamizhagamengum Moolai Mudukkellam Hindhi paadalgal olithu kondirundha neram, Engirundho "Laali Laalilaloo... Laali aalilaloo... En machhana..Machana Paathingalaa.." endra padal olikka Thamizhargal muzhuvadhum andha
dhisaiyai nokki thirumbiyadhu.
Andru aarambitha Adai Mazhai Oyamal 15 varudathirkku melaga adithu kondirundhathu. Idaiye mulaitha Kaalaan- gal(THEVA, SAR etc)thodarndhu aditha mazhaiyal ezhundhirukka mudiyavillai.
Idharkkumel Isaiyil pudhumaiyaga enna irukkiradhu endru makkal salipadaya thuvangiya neram, Idho endru veru dhisayai pudiya puyal kaattiyadhu.
"Raja Kayya Vaccha Adhu Wrong-aa ponadhille"
"Indha Raasava nambi vandha yaarum ada mosame poga poradhilla"
endra varigal poiyyaga poga aarambithadhu.
Isaignaniyin sathana paadalgal edupadavillai. Isaignaniyai munbu nerunga mudiyadhavargal indru elli nayagai aadugiraargal. Thodar Tholvigalaal
Isaignaniyai vida sorndhu kidakkum rasigargalil sila Thodai nadungigal Theva-vukku Jaalra adikka aarambithu vittargal.
Puyal avvappodhu adithaalum, Andru ezhundhirukka mudiyadha Kaalaangal indru Thiruttu porulai maar thatti koovi koovi amogamaga virpanai seigiraargal.
Nalla Kalaignanukku endrum azhivillai. Kaalam oru naal Maarum. Thodar vetrigal varathan pogiradhu. Andru nichayam Dharmam Jayikkum.
- From: MS (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Fri Aug 25 16:46:18 EDT 2000
what is the intention of this thread and what are you asking DFers to do here ?
- From: walter devaram (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Aug 25 16:54:39 EDT 2000
ippa nee innandra???
- From: Ara Blade Aarumugam (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Aug 25 19:38:47 EDT 2000
- From: shysun (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sun Aug 27 04:41:55 EDT 2000
unmai kasakkudha?,madhi ketta MS,DEVARAM & BLADE,UNGALA YAARU KOOPPITTA,I MEAN who called u in this thread ,keep away if u r not interested,mind you,raaja raaja thaaan !!!!pongada.
- From: karthi (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sun Aug 27 11:16:24 EDT 2000
Savikkadi Singaaram! IR's regime is over! Please don't believe your day dreams...
Can someone clarify as to how far this is true? I have always read things like these:
"Thamizhagathin moolai mudukkellaam Hindi songs oliththuk kondirundhapOdhu IR ushered in a fresh breath of music..." or something like "Hindi isaiyai rasithukk kOndirundha thamizh rasigargaLai marubadi Thamizh pakkam thiruppiya IR.." and so on...
IR brought in a fresh breath of music - OK. True. But what about the first part of these sentences? Is that true? Was TFM so bad in those days? And was hindi music so good and better then?
- From: Isai rasigan (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sun Aug 27 11:40:22 EDT 2000
It is not only Savukkadi Singaram that say this sentence, but all the old music genius says this.
So don't talk like this, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- From: prakash (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sun Aug 27 11:57:27 EDT 2000
hullo mr.rip van winkle aka karthi,
I still remember the time when I honesyaadon ki barrat and bobby,hum kisise kum nahin were a real rage -this was before raja came-the hindi film songs were just decimated after raja's advent.we are now back to hindi songs-is this what you call progress?this happened in the interim when MSV was beginning to sound monotonous (just like you all arr fans say about IR now).you can very conveniently forget all this but the facts remain.I have no doubt that all you ARR's fans are feeling very hep and trendy and smirking at all the old timers-just like we all felt when raaja was the raaja.while all the present music directors are just musicians raaja remains the last composer after msv.I have been a visitor in the forum and all the potings I see about ARR's music is about his recording,layering and whatnot.IR touched our hearts-ARR plays to your ears-that is what he will always be.before anyone starts trashing me , I am entitled yo my opinion and you to yours.your music is my noise (and vice versa)
- From: Prakash (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Sun Aug 27 12:01:58 EDT 2000
believe me,although i have mentioned movies lie YKB,HKKN,Bobby ,I am not old!( and dear karthi,no offense intended,I did not intend to sound the way i do in the posting)
- From: MS (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Sun Aug 27 13:51:46 EDT 2000
Please start more threads with the following captions:
(1) raajaa raajaathaan
(2) raajaa raajaathaan manthiri illai
(3) raajaa raajaavaaga iruppathaal manthiri illai
(4) raajaa maathiri yaarum illai - yEnna maththa 6 pErum seththup poIttaanga
(5) I am going to be decent in this thread, please help. (yeah that is a caption)
Hope you get enough junta to appreciate your efforts.
- From: karthi (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Tue Aug 29 02:46:00 EDT 2000
It's true that Bobby, YaadhOn Ki Bharaat, Hum KiseesE Kam Naheen were all hits. They were popular because they had real good songs. But, does that mean TFM songs were no good at that point of time?
In the same note, Qurbani, Ek Tujhe KeliyE, Satyam Shivam Sundaram were all great hits. And FYI, these films were released when IR had established his stance in TFM. Does this mean IR didn't score any good music and that's why these Hindi film songs became hits in the South?
I always felt and still feel that whoever it was that claimed "hindi paadalgaL pakkam irundhu thamizh rasigargaLai thamizhukkuth thiruppiya IR.." is funny!
- From: KITKAT (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Tue Aug 29 03:51:37 EDT 2000
And can somebody tell me what is preventing the dharmam from winning NOW?
- From: Karthik S (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Tue Aug 29 04:17:13 EDT 2000
I agree with Kitkat! He's made the most sensible statement in this already absurd thread!!!
- From: SL (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Tue Aug 29 04:26:24 EDT 2000
I agree with Karthi for a change :-)) It is a popular misconception that IR drove Hindi music out, the truth is Hindi music drove itself out and FYI, Hum Kisise... was released in '78, during IR's regime. The reason for the populartity of Hindi songs in the early 70s was good songs mostly sung by a 're-discovered' Kishore Kumar as opposed to a jaded TMS in Tamil, and the phenomenol popularity of Rajesh Khanna.The rise to super-stardom of Amitabh and the decline of Rajesh Khanna were synonymous with a conspicuous dip in HFM (later part of 70s).
- From: shysun (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Tue Aug 29 06:08:39 EDT 2000
hey ms,take care ,raaja potta roadula ,oc savari seyyaraanga,sonna kasakkudha ? illai nee musiciana,just air your views in a forum ,and anyone can start a thread and you sir,need not advise new threads,o.k. !!!!
- From: MS (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Tue Aug 29 11:03:59 EDT 2000
Your singular address (pongada - vaangadaa, nee etcc..), by all norms is objectionable. I should have probably made it clear in my previous post itself in a blatant rather than subtle manner. After all, I should not be counting on everybody's ability to decipher an innuendo.
- From: kk (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Tue Aug 29 13:39:01 EDT 2000
those movies are just few exceptions of hindi hits, remember few of these movies had Kamal in it to add to thier popularity.
If IR hadn't appeared in TFM, For sure
tfm might have faded away to hindi FM of LP etc.
MSV was only giving occational goddies. SG were making there usual sub quality music.
TFM would have sure lost its pride. Thats the main point. If there is no pride, there is patronage. Look in to kannada film industry or say marathi film industry. They themselves dont want it. Even if someone realy good appear, they wont bother (like sandeep chowta, he had to go to HFM to get some respect).
Why look else where I wouldnt have given a damn about tamil film or music, if IR wasnt there.
IR gave TFM a life. No doubt.
- From: dishkyoom (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Tue Aug 29 16:50:35 EDT 2000
apdeennnaa innaaa baaa
IR nna 'dharmam'
michcha MD's llam 'soodhaaa'
vettik katha paesaratha vuttuttu puzhappa paarungappa
- From: SHYSUN (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Wed Aug 30 02:51:39 EDT 2000
HELLO MS EVERYBODY IS NOT HERE TO DECIPHER YOUR INNUENDO'S RIGHT ,BE PRECISE ,IF NOT ACCEPT THE TRUTH,COZ REALITY BITES !!!!
- From: SHYSUN (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Wed Aug 30 02:56:15 EDT 2000
MS,MY SINCERE APOLOGIES,I WILL TAKE CARE TO BE GOOD TO ALL DF'ERS,LETS SURF HEALTHY,AND LET'S LIKE RAAJA AND ONLY RAAJA,ORIGINALITY WINS.
- From: KITKAT (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Wed Aug 30 03:23:20 EDT 2000
As a first step stop using caps lock:-)
- From: AMALRAJ (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Wed Aug 30 11:24:43 EDT 2000
I perfectly support your views ,to other DFers "IR's LIFE WILL PROOVE" SO JUST WAIT AND SEE.
- From: VS (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Wed Aug 30 12:03:59 EDT 2000
Shysun and others who believe in shouting the others down,
Stop using caps in your postings - one can understand if you are using HTML tabs and do not realize you are using bold/italics etc while typing, but caps shows up while you type unless you type with your eyes closed.
Also, please refrain from using "poda/pongada" type of usage in your postings. Observing these basic netiquettes would perhaps be a good idea for surfing healthy.
- From: Muniyandi (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Wed Aug 30 13:19:53 EDT 2000
ithu savukkadi KUDUkkura Singaramnu nenachen!!
ithu savukkadi VAANGARA singaram-nu ippo thaan therinjuthu!!
- From: karthi (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Thu Aug 31 00:53:31 EDT 2000
kk, even so (ie going by your statement), I feel the situation then would not have been as bad as it was when ARR appeared in the scene, right?
- From: NANBAN (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Thu Aug 31 11:19:50 EDT 2000
- From: VS (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Thu Aug 31 15:06:46 EDT 2000
How many times do people like you need to be told (politely) to stop posting in caps, as it implies shouting and shows bad manners ?
Please learn some netiquette before you come screaming in another thread. It is really disgusting indeed !
- From: VS (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Thu Aug 31 15:08:43 EDT 2000
And what an enlightening comment you have posted above in caps !
- From: RS (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Thu Aug 31 17:44:34 EDT 2000
Neenga indha thread ezhudarthuku munnadi Mahabaratham padichitu vandheengala? Dharmam, soodhu nu music ku samandham illa ma ezhudirukinga. Yaarum raja va adharmama vana vasam anupala. Naanum Raja fan dhan adhukaga ippadi ellam vaayku vandhadha ezhuda kudadhu ayya.
- From: eden (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sat Sep 2 01:25:19 EDT 2000
You got the point wrong about the `Raja chasing Hindi away'. No one claims the way you've understood...No, it's not that Raja has stopped Tamils listening to HFM at all (as you've rightly quoted Qurbani was a big hit in TN and so was Disco Dancer)...But it's 100% sure that Raja made elite -repeat elite - and educated Tamils claim that they like and listen to Tamil songs! He popularised Tamil film music in TN unlike any previous era, and it was purely on the strength of music (& not lyric or MGR/Sivaji) and in the mindset of Tamils, removed HFM! I can vouch for this as I personally know a no. of living examples who had lots and lots of HFM LP record collections till late 70's and got `converted':-))
- From: kk (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sat Sep 2 03:13:56 EDT 2000
WHAT WAS when ARR arrived?
Valli, guna, devarmagan, singaravelan, Aranmanaikkili, marupadiyum,Ponnumani, Athma, Ejaman, Idhayam, magalir muttum, veera....
junk movies and great music like maharsan, thalattu, parvathi ennai paradi.
too many to put down.
Just go and see raja movies list of 91, 92 and 93.
But then that must the year you had your EAR SURGERY RIGHT!?.
You must have been listening to songs like Khal nayak to show off!.
If you say it was bad then, I would assume just your taste wont go with raja thats all. He made and make great as ever.
I dont know to laugh or cry!.
Sorry, If I offend you.
- From: darul (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sat Sep 2 08:02:27 EDT 2000
Ooops! What a sense of thougt..Great Man..Just Get
going ..!People as like should remain around !
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