Songs and movies copied from Hindi?
Songs and movies copied from Hindi?
Topic started by kumar (@ 148.5.30.79) on Wed Jul 2 01:54:45 EDT 1997.
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- From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79)
on: Wed Jul 2 01:58:57 EDT 1997
I genarally hear that tamil MDs used to copy
hindi songs in 60s and 70's. Is it true? if so
who did. I know only little about old hindi songs.
please help.
(non music q) 'padosan' looks like 'adtha vettu penn' and 'Bombay to goa' is 'Ms to pondycherry'. Who copied from whom?
Just curious.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Jul 2 02:31:59 EDT 1997
In the 60's Vedhaa used to borrow (but, quite
nicely and effectively) a lot from Hindi tunes.
He did his copying out in the open. Since he
was working together with Kannadhaasan at Modern
Theatres for these movies, all his "copy" songs
became great hits. Ones that I can remember are:
Naane Varuven (Yaar Nee)
Naan malarodu thaniyaaga En ingu nindren and
Un pazhakkaththin meethenna thudippu (both from
Iru Vallavargal)
Manam ennum medai (CID Shankar)
Palinginaal oru maaligai (Vallavan Oruvan)
By Others:
Raadhaiyin Nenjame (Kanimuththu Paappaa)
Sandhanaththil Nalla Vaasam Eduththu (Praaptham)
(Is it really a copy?)
Of course, you should remember that Hindi MDs
have copied (are also copying) from Tamil songs;
and there are those who make new Tamil songs from
old Tamil song tunes.
Can we make a list of these "copied" songs?
When we are on this subject, I should mention that
copying is quite fine as far as it is done nicely.
I certainly would have missed hearing nice Hindi
tunes such as 'sow saal pahale mujhe thum se pyaar
thaa', unless they were beautifully copied into
Tamil by Vedhaa as 'manam ennum medai mele silai
ondru paaduthu'.
- From: ramki (@ 202.42.210.83)
on: Wed Jul 2 06:04:03 EDT 1997
I will not accept that 'sandhanathil nalla
vaasam eduthu'is a copy.Both the versions
had a lot of differences.
Other songs of vedha that were lifted from hindi
are:
oraayiram paarvaiyile un paarvaiyai naan ariven
Naanathaale kaalgal pinne pinne(??)
Ilaiyaraja copied a popular hindi tune for the
song 'kanavu kaanum vazhkkai yaavum kalaindhu
pogum kolangal(neengal kettavai)
But Sankar Ganesh duo outbeats everyone when it
comes to lifting tunes. Some songs i can list here is:
oru paadal naan ketten(osai)
devi neeindri naan edhamma(niruparaadhi)
megame megamae(paalaivana cholai)
kovil deivam nee selvam nee(ninaivugal)
vaanam arugil oru vaanam(nyaya tharasu)
I will add more as and when i remember
Btw 'adutha veettu penn'was release first.Padosan(to my opinion)was a very poor remake of the original
- From: Ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Wed Jul 2 09:12:13 EDT 1997
Other copies,
Kanavu kanda kadhal (movie Akbar) sung by Suseela, ? MD - original is from Mughal-e-azam.
Nerrukku Ner nindru paarthadhu podhum - ?
(original is O mere soana re sona re - teezri manzil).
En gadhal odangal (Anjadha Nenjangal) MD Sankar -Ganesh from Ek Dujhe ke liye - Tere mere beej mae. Interestingly this was flicked immediately after the release of Ek Dujhe ..
Ravi
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Wed Jul 2 09:21:14 EDT 1997
Adutha Veetu penn was first made in Telegu.
(Pakka Inti Ammmayi). Then remade in Tamil and remade in Hindi as Padosan.
One of the best comedies ever (in any language).
- From: Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-2-187.atl.bellsouth.net)
on: Wed Jul 2 16:19:19 EDT 1997
Yaaradhu sollamal nenjallippovadhu from Nenjamellam Neeye was an excellent song! MD is
Shankar-Ganesh. I understand thats a lift from
a Gazal song!!
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Wed Jul 2 21:58:09 EDT 1997
Isn't it "naanathaale kangal minna minna" Ramki? It is
from a Jaishankar movie.
Konjum puraave(sung by MLV)
Nilavo aval...(org: Tasveer tere dil mein)
ayyaa saami.. (org: gore gore)
vennilaa velli thattu(org: kyahua teraa vaadhaa)
konji konji pesi mathimayakkum
yenni yenni paarka manam inbam kondaaduthe
"oh raat se musaafir", "maang ke saath tumaaraa" have
tamil versions??
- From: ithu_copiyA (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Thu Jul 3 06:56:58 EDT 1997
is Iraaja's
Yem puruanthAn yenakku matum thaan
similar to
thum mera thum..miku jaiyE
??
- From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79)
on: Thu Jul 3 07:50:19 EDT 1997
Then is 'anne anne sipaye anne' is same as
'ek do teen' . Similarly they are different.
- From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ atl-ga10-25.ix.netcom.com)
on: Sat Jul 5 18:14:01 EDT 1997
I have heard that the first song to be copied in Hindi from Tamil is
Kannaa Karumai nira kannaa
nnai kaanaatha kannillaiye
I think MD is Sudharsanam
Is it true?
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Mon Jul 7 05:25:33 EDT 1997
Unnaithaan naanariven - vaazhkai padagu
kalyaana oorvalam varum - avan? (more songs from this
hindi dub )
en sidhai noyum theerumaa - avan/Kaveri ?
Innum paarthukondirunthaal ennaavathu - some Modern
theatre movie
- From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 202.54.10.96)
on: Tue Jul 15 08:02:28 EDT 1997
Shankar-Ganesh's
megam rendu serum podhu
minnal poo pookkum
from "poi mugangal" was from a pankaj udhas gazal
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8)
on: Wed Jul 16 23:42:38 EDT 1997
Can somebody give the original of the song 'kanavu kaaNum' from neengaL kEttavai? I heard the original once in Bombay. It was from a Hindi movie released in the 70's. I am sure that the song was blatanatly copied by Raja. It cannot be an inspiration.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Thu Jul 17 05:25:10 EDT 1997
The original for "kanavu kaanum" goes like "kasme waathe pyar
vafaa.."
- From: Gokul (@ 204.76.131.140)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:21:05 EDT 1997
I accidentally found deva's azhagu from Batcha
was a copy of dilbar of RD Burman's.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg)
on: Tue Jul 22 00:52:31 EDT 1997
There are many songs which you cannot call them
as exact (or even close) copies of other tunes,
BUT, when you hear them you are very much
REMINDED of tunes from other songs. Recently
I was hearing on Malaysian Radio, the following
song (by PS, MD: Vedhaa, Movie: ?):
nenjukku nimmadhi aaNdavan sannidhi
ninaiththaal ellaam unakkuLLE
It immediately reminded me of the song (by PS,
MD: Vedhaa, Movie: Vallavanukku Vallavan):
pozhudhum vidiyum poovum malarum
poRuththiruppaay kaNNaa
Similarly, when I hear the song, "Thirumaalin
thirumaarbil Sridevi mugame, dheepangaL
aaraadhanai", I am reminded of "NinaivaalE
silai seydhu unakkaaga vaiththEn" (both were
tuned by MSV).
Another recent example: "SollaamalE" from
Poove Unakkaaga (MD: Rajkumar)
reminds me of "KaNNaaLanE" of Bombay (MD: ARR).
I would be interested in listing other such
pairs.
- From: Kitcha (@ 128.227.80.32)
on: Thu Jul 31 17:31:38 EDT 1997
The music for the movie "Sigaram" was scored by SPB. But there is one song in the movie(I don't remember the song) which has the same tune of a very famous Mohd.Rafi number. When questioned about this SPB said he was inspired by the original. Now that's a preety flimsy excuse,coming from a person like SPB.
- From: Mani (@ xplode.dynamite.com.au)
on: Fri Aug 1 08:50:44 EDT 1997
The following popular Hindi songs had Tamil versions/copies (or is it the other way around?)
1. Tandi havaayen, lehraake aayen...
2. Bachpan ke din bhulaa na dena...
I am sure there are quite a few more from that era.
- From: Gopal (@ host-207-53-5-184.atl.bellsouth.net)
on: Fri Aug 1 15:26:14 EDT 1997
Kitcha, the popular piece from Sigaram was Vannam konda vennilave. Is that the one you are mentioning??
- From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 15:33:18 EDT 1997
Paatu paadava
paarthu pesavaa
paadam sollava
paramdhu sellava
has a hindi counterpart.
I don't know the hindi song.
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-to03.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 20:29:56 EDT 1997
Other Hindi/Tamil sets:
1. Chithi Sollu Sollu
2. Kann vazhiyae kann vazhiyae poanadhu kiliyae is a copy of a song from Chori Chori
3. SPB's "Kaalangalae Kaalangalae Kaadhalisai Paadungalaen" is also a copy
4. Is "Ore jeevan onrae ullam" from Neeyaa a copy?
5. Paarvai orae poadhuma and En vaedhanayil un kannirandum -- both from Yaar Nee
Rajaraman/ Ramki:
You both are partially right. The song is a TMS/PS duet where the male line is "Naanathaalae kannam minna minna" and the female line is "Kaadhalaalae kaalgal pinna pinna"
- From: vishy (@ 130.127.75.38)
on: Sun Aug 3 14:18:11 EDT 1997
The movie "Missiamma" (*ing Gemini) was remade
as "Miss Mary" in Hindi (again *ing Gemini) with
the song "Vaarayo vennilavaey" remade as
"O raath ke musafir..chanda zara bathadaey"..
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp80-34.ee.ufl.edu)
on: Sun Aug 3 18:16:32 EDT 1997
Gopal:
I saw your response rather late. You're right. The song I mentioned about was indeed Vannam Konda Vennilavae.
Do you know anything about the original version?
The songs :
1. Chittu Chittu Kurivikku from ULLATHAI ALLITHA and
2. Coimbatore Mappilaikku fromte movie of the same name
are both copied from a hindi(?)song called "Mere Laung Kawacha"
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Sun Aug 3 21:15:09 EDT 1997
Kitcha,
the song originally is supposed to be a Punjabi song. It appeared in the Hindi movie Naagmani.
It goes like "peeche peeche aaja mere..". I
think Disco Shanthi danced for it.
- From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125)
on: Wed Apr 15 03:56:57 EDT 1998
When i hear the song 'paartha gnabagam illayo' (ps, msv) from the film pudhiya paravai, the song 'haal kaisa hai janaab ka? kyA kayaal hai aapka' (kishore kumar) come to my mind. i think it atleast the the first line sound the same copy? lift? inspiration? respond.
Another one for now, 'kAAdhodu than naan paduven'(gemini, jayanthi) a k. balachander movie,resembles very much 'jeena yahaan marna yahaan(raj kapoor, mera naam joker).
- From: ram (@ nat-3-196.i2.com)
on: Tue Nov 30 20:07:02 EST 1999
I've heard an old hindi song that reminded me of "ilaya nila pozhigiradhu" from Payanangal mudivadhillai....
i'm sure people would pounce on me if i say the hindi number is the original, but i can't believe raja could have copied this one...
anyone knows about this?
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