Topic started by Venki (@ 126.96.36.199) on Tue Dec 30 03:09:05 EST 2003.
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We seem to be very critical of tfm directors of being inspired or copying from other sources as shown by the following thread.
Is originality a monopoly of people outside the tfm field or is exchange a two way street?
Please post any tunes inspired or copied by others from Tamil Film Music.
- From: Thamilan (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Tue Dec 30 08:10:42 EST 2003
in srilanka 50% of the sinhalese songs are 100% copied from tfm. 20% songs 100% cut paste hindhi songs. the rest of the songs are inspired songs.
- From: Venki (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Wed Dec 31 02:57:19 EST 2003
Thamilan, Do you have any particulars of the songs involved?
OK, let me get the ball rolling with the following.
Neelay Neelay Ambar Par from Kalakaar (1983) by Kalyanji Anandji
seems to be copied from
Ilaya Nila from Payanangal Mudivathilai (1982), Ilaiyaraja
- From: AV (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sun Jan 4 11:32:18 EST 2004
This is a very interesting topic! I don't have much to add here, but some interesting article, which may be slightly off topic. They don't have anything to do with inspiration from *TFM* as such, but from Carnatic music. In this case, the persons who were inspired were none other than Rabindranath Tagore and Ustad Abdul Karim Khan. Of course, this would be a case of inspiration and not blatant copying
(as "interpreter" had explained to me on the "copied TFM songs" thread.)
Here are the three references:
Immediately I started making a Research work I found that some of the Tagore's songs are identical to the same ragas of Carnatic songs of Mutthuswamy Dikshitar and Thiagaraja. This inspired me very much to go ahead with the project Bharatnatyam to blend with Rabindranath Tagore's composition within the grammatical frame work of Bharatnatyam.
An unusual form of homage, as well as an attestation of how Tyagaraja's music captivated even musicians not trained in the Carnatic music, is Ustad Abdul Karim Khan's presentation of Tyagaraja's Kharaharapriya kriti, rama nee samanamevaru ...
Inspired by Tyagaraja's kriti in Poornashadjam, lavanya rama
Rabindranath Tagore composed a song e ki labanya which we offer next. The singer is Swagatalakshmi Dasgupta.
"Gita Bharati" was among the unique features that Doreswamy Iyengar put together for AIR. It juxtaposed the kritis of Thyagaraja and Muthuswami Dikshitar with the Bengali songs of Rabindranath Tagore, based on their musical structure. These unusual pieces had been composed by Tagore after his trip to southern India in the 1920s that included a visit to the Mysore court. Tagore had drawn inspiration from Carnatic compositions such as Needu charanamule (Simhendramadhyamam), Minakshi memudam (Purvikalyani) and Lavanya rama (Purnashadjam).
To add to this, Ustad Vilayat Khan, I have read somewhere, is credited with the creation of raaga Madhuvanti in Hindustani classical. I would disagree with the creation part (adaptation to Hindustani music - yes). This raaga existed long ago in the South indian tradition. I immediately recall Mangambudhi Hanumantha, a Carnatic composition by Annamacharya (?), of which I have heard a recording by the venerable Sudha Raghunathan.
- From: Suraj (@ )
on: Mon Jul 26 05:49:39 EDT 2004
Mangambudhi Hanumantha is set to 'Dharmavathi'. this" target="_top">http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/hcragatable.html">this page shows that Madhuvanthi is the equivalent of Dharmavathi.
- From: tevin (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Jul 30 20:54:05 EDT 2004
Black Eyed Peas - Hands Up
Used a tamil song, some old IR hit, very catchy song!
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