Topic started by Anbu. S (@ proxy.singnet.com.sg) on Fri May 1 07:19:56 EDT 1998.
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After the great Kaviarasu Kannadhasan, Vairamuthu is used to call as Kaviarasu Vairamuthu, is it acceptable by you, can u compare VM with KK...

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• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Fri Oct 1 09:33:02 EDT 1999
  
  Dorai:
  
  I don't find anything weird in ANindha modhiram lines.
  
  Modhiram - viralil aNivadhu
  VaLaiyal - kaiyil aNivadhu
  OddiyaNam - Idayil aNivadhu
  
  So, the extent of heroine's weight loss due to the 'pirvu' is that her modiram has become a VaLaiyal and she wants him to be back before the VaLaiyal becomes OddiyaNam (meaning she could lose more weight). It's an interesting idea even though not new.
  
  
• From: Anand Ramasamy (@ fasthttp.aap.ans.net) on: Fri Oct 1 10:54:51 EDT 1999
  
  Dorai,
  
  Even VM won't have an answer for it. A few years ago, VM was interviewed by Spore Radio. They were discussing early days of VM with VM. In "Aayiram Thamarai mottukkalaey" song, there is a line "vullirukkum vervai vanthu neer vaarkum". As such, VM only knows what this means. Somehow our AIR interpreted this that this song has obscene
  words and banned it from playing on radio. When
  Spore Radio quoted this, VM vazhingified and said
  he did not have any such intentions of using bad
  words and all. But, he never explained what it
  really meant. :)
  
  - Anand R
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Fri Oct 1 16:00:36 EDT 1999
  
  Ravy,
  I know what VM means by those line in Soukiyamaa. But what a weird comparison from a Modthiram to a vallaiyal and then to a Odiyaanam. If he had stopped at the Vallaiyal stage it would have made some realistic and imaginative sense. Odiyanam is not worn on hands but on waist I believe. If he had said "Annitha Necklace Odiyanamai Aagumune Anbe Azhaitheen..". then it would have been fine. But not our KaviPerarasu!!!
  
  He is not sure about comparing what to what and claims himself as KaviPerarasu. Just fills up the tune with some weird and absurd comparisons.
  
  By the way, does anyone have any answers on "Jothi Jothi ai Erukkum" lines and "Kannil Verthean" ??
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Fri Oct 1 16:11:46 EDT 1999
  
  Guys,
  Whenever I hear the line "Jyothi Epadi Jyothiyai Erikkum.." what comes to my mind is
  
  1. Ice Katti Epadi Ice Katti ai Kullira Vaikum...
  
  You never know, he might use this line in some song in future.
  
  
• From: Rex (@ 1cust22.tnt1.atlanta2.ga.da.uu.net) on: Sun Oct 3 23:41:34 EDT 1999
  
  Dorai:
  
  Kalakkal......In fact this is what really makes me mad againt this DiaMUNDU kavingnar......At times he really writes well...but sometimes he really blows up thinking his karpanai is the greatest....Latest trash is that, "jothi eppadi jothiyai erikkum ".......whenever that line comes, I just skip the entire song after that sequence.....
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-wi061.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Oct 4 00:29:54 EDT 1999
  
  Vairamuthu's sensational lyrics for two songs in which SPB outpours expressions with his high pitch rendering. These songs almost got VM, the title 'kavi paerarasu' for the movie amarkaLam!;-)
  
  1. saththam illatha thanimai kaetten. 89 lines continuous downpour! listen to the song here,
  http://members.xoom.com/tamilmelody/sample/saththam.ram
  
  2. magegangaL ennai thottu pOnathundu. SPB emotes brilliantly after a long time! The lines
  sevvAyil jeevaraasi unda endru
  ada thinanthORum viggnanam thaeda koLLum
  un sevvAyil uLLathadi enathu jeevan
  ithu theriyAmal viggnanam ethanai vellum? are run of the mill stuff from VM. listen to the song here,
  http://members.xoom.com/tamilmelody/sample/megangal.ram
  
  SPB deserves the credit for both songs .
  
  
  
• From: chandy (@ 209.125.83.228) on: Mon Oct 4 13:35:26 EDT 1999
  
  VM seems to be obsessed with this word "vervai'.. he uses it in silly contexts, and takes shelter under the banner of "poetic" expressions!!
  
  I liked his lines "Endhan Thaayin Garbam thaandi, marumurai uyir konden".. but its a bit too much to write stuff like "jyothi epadi jyothisyai erikum?"
  
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Tue Oct 5 11:43:24 EDT 1999
  
  Chandy,
  I too liked the line "Endhan Thaayin Garbam thaandi, marumurai uyir konden". But what I don't like is his lack of consistency. He comes with great lyrics for some songs and also with total absurd lyrics for certain other songs. I think the MD has to play he controlling game to filter only the best output from him.
  
  
• From: CanOfWorms (@ mcproxyge.geis.com) on: Wed Oct 6 13:13:41 EDT 1999
  
  "Jyothi eppadi jyothiyai erikkum"
  aduthadu
  "neer eppadi neerai kudikkum"
  "kaatru eppadi kaatrai veesum"
  
  Fabulous stuff! Only a genius can come up with stuff like that. Yeah right!
  
  PS: C'mon Ponmani madam! buck up. You are not concentrating these days. (For folks who are wondering, what the hell that means....there is a very strong belief that Mrs. Ponmani Vairamuthu - the esteemed professor of Tamil in Meenakshi college for Women, and a great poetess in her own right - writes and fixes a lot of stuff for her husband. Other Meeenakshi college teachers, like my mom, know this because they see Ponmani writing lyrics in the staff room during free hours.... so... maybe she was just too busy and did not notiice some of his slips)
  
  
• From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.168) on: Wed Oct 6 21:02:56 EDT 1999
  
  For those of you who have not read it :
  
  http://www.image-in-asian.com/ramesh_m/ramesh4.html
  
  A critique on the self-proclaimed 'Kaviarasu'.
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.iprimus.com.au) on: Thu Oct 7 07:08:56 EDT 1999
  
  Hi GUYS
  
  Can anyone confirm whether Vairamuthu self- proclaimed or was awarded the tittle of KAVIARASU?
  Would it make any difference if he was called KAVIMANNAN?
  
  
• From: KATTABOMMAN (@ 203.57.83.154) on: Thu Oct 7 18:31:55 EDT 1999
  
  Can of Worms
  
  Neer enna ETTAPPAN parambarayo! ivvalavu ezhlithaaga kaatti koduthuviteer!!!
  Your mother being a teacher;does that mean your assignments were written by your mum?
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Fri Oct 8 19:31:52 EDT 1999
  
  Guys,
  Another bad lyric from VM on Roja Roja... in
  Kadhalar Dhinam
  
  "Mazhayil Nee Nanaidhal Enukku Kaichal Varum...
  Veyilil Nee Theerindhal Enukku Vervai Varum..."
  
  He has done this kind of comparison in Allaigal Oyvadhilai, Vizhiyal Vizhundhu Song.
  
  "Nee Malligai Poovai Soodi kondal Roja Poovuku
  kaichal varum..."
  
  VM is the only big lyric writter who comes with
  such absurd lyrics.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-81-26.tm.net.my) on: Fri Oct 8 21:00:32 EDT 1999
  
  All songs in Kadhalar dhinam have been penned by VAALI. Dorai Vaali thaan Kadhirin Aasthana kavignar enbadhu theriyaadhaa?
  
  
• From: RS (@ host62-6-114-38.host.btclick.com) on: Sat Oct 9 14:26:25 EDT 1999
  
  CanofWorms,
  
  Just because Ponmani writes lyrics in the staff room during free hours, doesnt mean that she is writing it for her husband. For your very kind information, most of the early lyrics of VM was penned before he marrying poNmani.
  
  Lets not accuse others without facts please.
  
  
• From: bb (@ ts001d45.cha-il.concentric.net) on: Sat Oct 9 16:22:06 EDT 1999
  
  RS, the first song written by VM was when ponmaNi was expecting their first child or something:-)
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.iprimus.com.au) on: Sat Oct 9 18:18:52 EDT 1999
  
  Can of worms
  
  You mean to say VM has no poetic skills and he relies on his wife's skills? What a load of rubbish!The truth of the matter is your mother has no right to poke her nose in other people's affairs.
  Please use your god given intelligence and don't be A WORM WITH NO BACKBONE.
  
  
• From: Tamil Kavi (@ gwnj.utstar.com) on: Thu Oct 14 14:06:52 EDT 1999
  
  Jana,
  
  Regarding Kavi Perarasu VM : I was shocked to read this title in front of Vairamuthu in one of the latest movie. It seems MK gave this name to him. What a cheap politician is VM?
  
  Nenju Porukkuthillaiye indha Nilai ketta manidarai ninaithu vittal? How well Bharathiyar wrote about such people.
  
  tamil kavi
  
  
• From: Devi. (@ 70.uswest.com) on: Mon Oct 18 15:57:11 EDT 1999
  
  Dear All,
  
  I am a new entrant..My name is Devi..and I am
  a music lover..
  
  Read about your ideas reg jothi eppadi jothiyai
  erikkum..
  Please listen to the song fully..
  
  the girl will ask like this:
  
  Kalai yendra jothiyil kadhalai yeripadhu muraiya?
  
  For that the guy says
  
  jothi yeppadi jopthiyai erikkum?
  
  He means kalai(art- here it means dance) is a jothi..and kadhal is also a jothi.. How can either one become the enemy of the other one
  and try to destory?..
  
  Please listen and try to understand.. and please
  do not come to hasty conclusions..
  
  In these days words eithout any meaning ( like
  jil jil, kal kal) are used to write songs..
  Amidst this group a guy who writes some good
  themes may look out of the place..
  
  I am not defending Vairamuthu but just stating
  facts..
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Mon Oct 18 20:18:58 EDT 1999
  
  Devi,
  Thanks for shedding some Jothi in this dark room.
  
  
• From: Guru (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Fri Oct 22 00:41:06 EDT 1999
  
  My friend and I had a discussion today about the same subject and we wanted to know whether Kannadasan had written any "vulgar" stuff. We did not know. Do you? There is certainly a difference in their periods but may be Kannadasan too had penned something bad during his period of time. Thanks for the help.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-42-60.tm.net.my) on: Tue Oct 26 00:09:02 EDT 1999
  
  I am right now listening to Mudhalvan songs and I am intrigued by this handywork of VM. The only mediocre song in the movie is Kurukku siruthavalae (appadinna enna) Once again VM has made the hero ask the heroine to poosify him as manjal. Konjam manja thechi kulikkaiyil enna konjam poosu thaayae. Etthanai naalukku ippadiyae poosuvaaro. Ippadiyae ponal makkalellam Saanila karachi vasalilae thelichida poranga.
  
  
• From: :-) (@ 129.252.26.68) on: Tue Oct 26 01:36:23 EDT 1999
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: Jee (@ 193.188.124.233) on: Tue Oct 26 03:39:23 EDT 1999
  
  Kamesh,
  
  Kurukku means Iduppu. (Madurai Tamizh).
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-42-79.tm.net.my) on: Tue Oct 26 04:39:21 EDT 1999
  
  Jee
  
  Thanks. I thought it was Kirukku wrongly spelt. :-)))
  
  
• From: sk (@ uc.cache.nlanr.net) on: Wed Oct 27 22:17:58 EDT 1999
  
  Kamesh:
  
  andha kAlaththil MGR JJ-vai pArththu
  mellidaiyALE
  endru pAdinAr.
  
  (andha kAlaththil Gemini Ganesan kooda Savithri-yai
  pArththu noolidaiyAL endru nichchayam
  pAdiyiruppAr. pAdal ezhudhubavargaL, padaththil
  nadikkum nAyagigaL yArendru theriyAmal ippadi
  descriptions ezhudhividuvArgaL.)
  
  
  appuRam Kamal Revathi-yai pArththu
  inji iduppazhagi
  endru pAdinAr..
  
  ippO Arjun Monisha-vai pArththu
  kuRukku chiRuththavaLE
  engiRAr..
  
  ellAm oNNudhAn.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-42-177.tm.net.my) on: Wed Oct 27 23:07:08 EDT 1999
  
  sk
  
  Manisha - Kurukku chiruthavalae OK
  Revathi kooda acceptable
  JJ, Savithri - ????
  
  But i liked one in this subject and that was Idayo illai, irundhal mullai kodipol ....
  
  That was nice imagination.
  
  
  
• From: sk (@ uc.cache.nlanr.net) on: Thu Oct 28 00:13:51 EDT 1999
  
  Kamesh:
  
  adhu Vaali dhooL kiLappiya kAlam.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ hlr-42-177.tm.net.my) on: Thu Oct 28 00:24:15 EDT 1999
  
  SK
  
  Vaaliyaa,
  
  yaaru andha Atak patak, mukkaala, Hello doctor ellam ezudinaarae. Avaraaa? Idhu Kaalathin kattayamaa illai ketta kaalamaa?
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ netcache31.mot.com) on: Thu Oct 28 02:34:54 EDT 1999
  
  kamesh,
  
  illai, indha amma enrazhaikkAdha uyirillayE, enna vilai azhagE ellam ezhudhinArE, avar :-)
  
  
• From: sonali (@ ) on: Thu Feb 10 20:09:15 EST 2000
  
  What do you all about singer unnikrishnan,sukvinder,s.p bala&his son?
  
  they voice are lovely
  
  
  
  sonali
  
  
• From: shiva (@ 216.145.49.15) on: Tue Aug 6 14:12:03 EDT 2002
  
  Hello,
  Can you tell me what "Inji Iduppazhagi" means ? Is that literal comparison to Inji (ginger) or does Inji mean something else ?
  
  shiva
  
  

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