Topic started by Are Yaar (@ 220.127.116.11) on Thu Oct 10 08:44:25 EDT 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
For many days, I felt that I should have a thread to share some of the articles about ARR in desi and international press and website. I intend to start this thread and expect others also to post some articles about ARR here.
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- From: Are Yaar (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Nov 29 02:24:51 EST 2002
And a response by Mr. Shyam. Might be a old forum memeber also. But, I am doing my duty. Posting good one here
:) that was some mail!!
i think we cant dispute most of wut was sed in that mail...
but still...like i sed in my earlier mail...post arr..IR has nothing
to speak of...nothing to show...
its clear from that mail that the writer is someone who is totally
well versed with IR's career... and as if to support my claims...all
the songs and films listed by him have been pre arr...the latest
film being thalapathi!!!
i think none of us would be silly enuf to say IR was a "zero"...i
mean im sure all of us have enjoyed his melodies sometime or the
other...at least before arr turned up on the scene...
and abt IR using technology...come on!! gimme a break!!!! first of
all it was not vikram...but it was punnagai mannan when IR used
computers for music making first time...and ofcourse it was ARR who
did the programming.... and we all know that it was viji manuel
(IR's keyboardist) who suggested that ARR leave IR's stable and
start somehting on his own... cos he believed computers had no place
in IR's studio...
and stereo??? IR?? :) :)
ok!! now if someone tells u that TV sales increased cos someone uses
stereo effects in their music...then u can take it for granted that
the person knows very little...TV STILL WORKS IN MONO!!!! :) :) all
the songs which r shown on TV...they r mixed on mono (jus for that
specific purpose)...ask any engineer he will tell u!!! and those
TV's which have the "stereo boost" etc...they jus play the same mono
track on nbothe the left and right channels...thats it! (ofcourse
when i sed TV im not taking into account the DVD players with
5.1 ..jus the TV set!)
and i sed in my earlier mail on the same topic that IR's symphony
was not up to the mark...i happened to meet a guitarist yesterday
(for obvious reasons i dont wanna take names in here) who is an 8th
grader from trinity college of music...and whos been playing for IR
in recordings for quite some time now...and who has a 50 yr
experience in studio recordings...he told me that IR's symphony cant
even be called that! apparently it was no where near any symphonic
standards! like i sed no one is a fool to spend thousands of dollars
to assemble a symphonic orchestra and record a symphony and not
release it!!! why even metallica's "Symphony and Metallica" sold
like hot cakes...among metallica and non-metallica fans alike!!!
tats the reach of a symophony orchestra!!
actually ...i can think of a song for every situation that the
writer has listed in his mail...at least for most of the
situations...ivent seen all arr movies...maybe someone with the
patience and someone who has seen all rahman movies can comeup with
corresponding facts :) :) maybe gops or ambu or vijay or vinod...
and ennavale....flute piece by a foreign composer?? ive never known
any worthwile band other than jethro tull whove used the flute
properly!! and i know how naveen works!!! ive heard first hand
accounts from people who have recorded with naveen...(my friend's
bassist refused to come for recording sessions for 3 days when he
heard naveen play!!! he thought he had no right to be playing for
the same song in which naveen is playing...and lemme tell u hes an
awesome bassist...technically reputed to be as good as keith!!) that
man has got an awesome creativity!! to me...totally unmatched when u
compare other session cats...naveen has so much stock in him and its
highly unlikely that both arr and naveen sat together one fine
morning and decided to lift that "carnatic" flute piece from an
unnamed foreign composer... and if he did... I would like to see
that ananda vikadan interview where he agreed he lifted!!!
And the lesser spoken abt IR's magnanimity the better!!! :) :) :)
- From: ambleen (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Nov 29 04:49:00 EST 2002
To all the Decade of Psycho Vaitheruchal Sh*ts here,
What happened to all the sweet talk trying so hard to convince the normal ppl here that you guys are not sick m*****r f*****s! Tortured souls trying to infiltrate into IR forums in a unpleasant way? What happened? Caved in due to too much pressure? Please let us know. Coz it makes us happy.
You are only making all of us just too happy. Apart from showing your sudden volcanic stomach eruptions, ie. just because of the all the attention that IR is getting from BBC and just because many ppl are re/discovering him and his movies of late and his works of late, you poor ruptured souls have resorted to so many indirect mud slinging. Gosh, you are even bigger bigot than al-qaieda.
It still doesn't end. AY, while he is still AY, he will certainly behave like AY.
WN, while trying to say nice things about IR, gives it away, intentionally or unintenionally, about how he disapproves of IR and what is going on. Another one who really 'thaanga mudiyavillai' all the happenings of IR. WN lost it.
And to another real goon who tried to put down IR's Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu song with this quote,"If Mani had not given such a situation, with all the possibilities open, this song may not have come about." I got news for you, if the same Mani did not discover or get recommended to take ARR, then which sh*t hole do you think he would still be in still producing pathetic Airtel like commercials with Riverdance's or Enya's 'inspirations'?
While so many IR forums here are bustling away with activities, you decade of pathetic psychos are trying so hard to do the same for all/any ARR forums. Just take a look how many ppl visit here and also take a look at how many different people this decade of shit. Also take a look of what you talk about and the constant patting on each others
backs ALL THE TIME ....seems more like gay activities goin on here. errrr....shivers!
Halo, gentleman or gentleponnus or wateva you are, please go shove yourself. No problem if you want to retaliate. It makes us all...all the more happier :)
- From: Paran (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Nov 29 04:55:38 EST 2002
you are a very good example for soul being "fed" with IR music...
look what it has done to urself.....pity though...
anyway...we are happy IR is getting his recognition....congrats...
our Maestro ARR says.."I hope there will be more of us go to West and impress them"..
so u see teh difference...
- From: C~P (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Fri Nov 29 07:00:05 EST 2002
>>Tortured souls trying to infiltrate into IR forums in a unpleasant way? What happened? Caved in due to too much pressure? Please let us know. <<
wats ur problem? ... u don wan peace newhere??
postin ONE message in the HUNDREDS of threads here means u are very active
orey oru paattu(RKT) westerners recognise panninathukkey intha jambamaa? .... dat to for a set of ppl who don care wat the westerners think
- From: curses (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Fri Nov 29 08:09:47 EST 2002
and not one ONE of those polls have been made by a non-Tamil.
Not to mention the oh so many multiple votes.
This is not jealousy or ne hard feelings against IR. Just a peek into what went behind the votes.
- From: curses (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Fri Nov 29 08:11:52 EST 2002
oops. I forgot to mention the "Lobby-till-I-die".
"PUHLEEEZE Vote for "him".. waah"
- From: curses (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Nov 29 08:12:42 EST 2002
ok. I mite have crossed the line.
pardon me. :)
- From: OISG (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Nov 29 10:48:03 EST 2002
IR was responsible for sale of tape recorders!What about Washin machines,Cookers grinders (i expect a familiar retort!).The write up sounds like the whole world was wearing "Elai Thazhai"before 1976 and sound itself was invented in 1976.
- From: WN (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Nov 29 22:48:20 EST 2002
An article posted at YG:
"KNOCK ON BOLLYWOOD"
It is an analysis on how successful BD cud be at Broadway.
"OF all the popular shows in London's West End that have set their sights on Broadway, the one that will have the most challenging - and, if its novice producer gets it right, thrilling - trip across the pond will surely be "Bombay Dreams."
The music is by A.R. Rahman, and Lloyd Webber, wearing his producer hat, deserves credit for tapping the talents of this composer, as yet unknown in the West but hugely popular in India
Lloyd Webber has made a solid hit of "Bombay Dreams," which, according to one backer, should return its $6.5 million investment early next year.
Overall, about 20 to 30 percent of the audience for "Bombay Dreams" is Indian, says Arthur Pais, who, as senior editor of India Abroad in New York, has written extensively about "Bombay Dreams." "
The full article here:
- From: WN (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Fri Nov 29 22:56:53 EST 2002
Posted this at the New Releases thread too. Another article posted at the YG:
"Three top Indian film musicians head west"
At least now we dont have to bear the torture of listening to endless lectures on "colonialism's impact on 21st century" :)
- From: Are Yaar (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Fri Nov 29 23:48:50 EST 2002
A message on Bapsi Sidhwa - Author of Ice candy Man
Bapsi Sidhwa was at my university tonight for a lecture, so I got to
ask her a few questions. For all of you who are not familiar with
Bapsi Sidhwa, she's the author of the famous novel Ice Candy Man,
which was put to film in EARTH by Deepa Mehta.
I asked her a couple of questions regarding WATER, and here's what
she had to say. I am not qouting her...I'm just writing down all that
I can remember right now.
Me: Did you contribute to the script of WATER?
BS: Thank God, NO! (smiles) because there's too much controversy
surrounding the film. They had spent over $1 million on the sets of
the film when the sets were attacked and destroyed.
She mentioned some instances where she wasnt quite familiar with film-
making and how different things were on film, so I asked her whether
there was any rift between her and Deepa over EARTH. She said no, and
that there had to be some differences between the book and the film
because there are completely different medias and she has absolutely
no regrets over how the film was made.
She also briefly mentioned the outline of the script of WATER. She
said that it involved 3 widows. And she mentioned the names of
Shabana Azmi, Nandita Das & Manisha Koirala for those three roles.
Ok, this is the more interesting part...
When I got the opportunity to talk to her personally, she said that
she had gone over the script of WATER. I asked her to give me some
details on the script.
She said that Nandita Das (I dont remember exactly what she said) was
a widow who goes into prostitution where a Brahman falls in love with
her. Before he gets to marry her he finds out that she had slept with
his father's friend. So he leaves her and she commits suicide.
That's all she would say on the script. However, she said that they
tried shooting in Sri Lanka and that also was unsuccessful because
Sony was involved with the film and 'they' (she didnt say who they
were) threatened to cancel Sony's license in India if the film went
through production. As in they wouldnt let Sony operate in India if
the film was made.
When I asked her about WATER's music, she said that it was "amazing!"
(I'm qouting her here :) ). She didnt seem too enthusiastic about the
music of EARTH though, coz when I asked her how well she thought the
music went with the film, she plainly said something like it went
Also, for the Pakistani members, Bapsi said that she had forwarded a
request to President Musharraf to allow the EARTH to be released in
Pakistan after some a few edits, but she says that she doesnt have
any hopes for that to come through.
So that's about it. By the end of it, she must've been willing to
kill me because I kept coming up to her with questions and
- From: WN (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Tue Dec 3 06:01:33 EST 2002
"Narinder: From Big Brother to Bombay Dreams???
2nd December 2002
Amongst the stage stars in attendance at Friday's launch party for the 2003 Whatsonstage.com Theatregoers' Choice Awards, there was also one wannabe. Narinder Kaur, aka mate to Brian and Bubble on last year's Big Brother 2, slipped in to the bash and in front of the media cameras. Accompanied by her agent, Kaur is apparently keen to strut her stuff on stage in Bombay Dreams, one of this year's nominees for Best New Musical. Does she have a chance? Producer Andrew Lloyd Webber has mad no secret of the fact that he believes suitable Asian performers for the show are in short supply (See The Goss, 21 Oct 2002). According to other rumours, he's also looking to Bollywood itself, which inspired the West End hit, for casting replacements. Hindi heartthrob Hrithik Roshan - star of films including Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham and Mission Kashmir - is said to be keen."
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