Topic started by mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on Fri Jan 16 22:33:09 EST 1998.
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- From: parthasarathy venkatram (@ socks11d.raleigh.ibm.com)
on: Fri Jun 26 19:54:45 EDT 1998
the title kaviarasu was given to kannadasan
in case of vairamuthu it is not so.
it is not advisable to use others title.
for example kavichakravarthi means kambar.
so people refers a person by title.
so if we refer vairamuthu by kaviarasar
then people think of kannadasan.
vairamuthu falls under kavignnar not kaviarasu.
vairamuthu should learn some decency by seeing
- From: kannan (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Wed Feb 24 22:50:08 EST 1999
please stop this non-sence.
kannadasan was great,
should not compare with vairamutu
- From: govind (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sat May 8 07:46:33 EDT 1999
vanakkam tamil kurum nallulagamey!
vanathirku ore oru 'sooriyan'than.
pillayikku ore oru 'thai'than.
thamil kavithaikku ore oru 'arasan' than
- From: k.vasanth (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Wed Jan 26 14:36:53 EST 2000
kannathasan is a great poem maker best story writer & he had good knowledge with tamil licreture.but vairamuthu hasn't that much of knowledge,he has good knowledge with tamil,comparing with our future poem makers or story writers.king (arasu) is depen on presently who is the winner or leader.in this periode he is the king, so he is "kaviarasu" don't thing & comparing old one and new one. old is gold,but new one is gold for this generation.nowdays who like kannathasan songs(for teen age guys)
who can give whatever we like? he is the king in our mind.in future it will change, in that time
we will know king Or "kaviarasu" is depened on that time whatever we need.
- From: Lily (@ brf-cache10.jaring.my)
on: Wed Jan 26 23:34:30 EST 2000
Yes! "Kaviarasu Kannadasan" but Vairamuthu is vairamum muthum serntha kaviarasu.
- From: elango (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Wed Feb 2 08:17:46 EST 2000
even both of them had contributed a lot to the tamil world and leave their name on history , both have their own domain of expertise and remains unattainable in that area.
kannadhasan simplifies lot of illakia padalkal into his film songs and provide the common man to get the knowledge of the illakkiam .
and vairamuthu is now mixing the science in tamil the need of this age
- From: Saravanan (@ pixar1.pacific.net.sg)
on: Thu Feb 3 07:00:41 EST 2000
vairamuthu is the greatest india ever made
- From: Maryam Kabir (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Fri Feb 4 11:55:49 EST 2000
kannadasan oru tamil aruvi,
vairamuthu oru tamil kuruvi.
vairamuthuvin kavithaigal nallavai thaan, atharkaaha avai kannadaasanodu oppittu paarkakoodiya azhavukku vuyarnthavai alla.
oru saraasari kavithai viyaabaari
mettuku thahunthaar pol paattezhuthi
sontha vazhamaana vaarthaihalai
avar innum muneiri athai thavirkaveindum.
sila vimarsananghazhai purindhu
vairamuthu thavirthu kondaal
avarum iraiyin aruzhal kannadasan azhavu
vuyaraavittalum vimarsanam indri
vazhthu peralam enbathu en thazhmaiyana karuthu
kanavu kaanum vazhkai yaavum, pondra paadalgazh
thaneer theisam, pondra kavithai thohupugal,
kadhal kaditham ezhuthavei,
thanjavore maneduthu, pondra paadalagal
vuyarvai petravai thaan
- From: Gopalan (@ h-205-217-244-168.netscape.com)
on: Fri Mar 3 03:21:55 EST 2000
I can not consider Vairamuthu as KaviArasu. He does not deserve.
I do agree that every poet, in cinema has to write song for the situation. But when a question was thrown at him, in Junior Vikatan sometime back asking why he was going out of fundamentals (in grammar), he was pointing out at Kambar.
1. I do not agree to have any escape mechanism of pointing out fingers at the fault (I can not comment on the actual Ilakkana mistake by Kambar) since any one can do mistake. I throw a question to Vairamuthu. I am sure his fore fathers (including his father and grand fathers)would have not gone to the schools where he had his education. Their level of education would be certainly very minimal when compared to him. Why did he no point at them and stoped his edu like his fore father? This is applicable to anyone who quotes their forefathers. This is purely escapism.
2. Now Vairamuthu has started the diminishing of Tamil. Tamil is being spoken by 70Mn people across the globe. He lives because of Tamil and he should not play with that kind of attitude. Its just aAlra to the current chief minister of Tamil Nadu who also threatens that Tamil is deminishing. I heard MK's daughter is working in THE HINDU.. Why.. Why this muRanPadu?
Thanks for helping me to provide my view
- From: Sridhar (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Thu Mar 9 11:10:07 EST 2000
One can not compare Kannadhasan for his style and simplicity in explaining the whole story in a 4minute song with phylophical touch. Vairamuthu lacks, with a unilateral thinking, reserved words (COBOL guy I presume), with nasty explanation
- From: Rathiny (@ mail.grindhs.dk)
on: Tue Mar 21 05:08:34 EST 2000
Kavikku Arasu Kannadhasan, Thottukku Arasu Vairamuthu,,,
Kannadhasan Kavithaiku Uyir koduthan,,
Vairamuthu Kavithaiku vellaiyai koduthan..
- From: M.yaathiri (@ kmr-183-132.tm.net.my)
on: Tue Apr 18 01:13:27 EDT 2000
kathal oru alagu kathal kavi yeluthubavan alaguku sontammanavan ... anthe alagai alum arasanee ulagum pothrum kavi arasan kannathasan nee...
- From: m.vbllie muniady (@ kmr-183-132.tm.net.my)
on: Tue Apr 18 01:27:09 EDT 2000
kannathasanne un kaviku yetanai artam kanden
anal nan yennai nontu kolgiren
un kavi varigal yetanai pathumai kanden
anal nan yennai nontu kolgiren
unnai pondre kavinyargal yethainai per thondrinalum un pogalai adayaa mudiyumma....
un kavigalai oru munpanam maga ubayogithu vanthe kavinyargal yenna aratil kavithai vargindargal yendre puriyavillai...
yennai nan nontu konda karanam un kavigalai kalam kadanto padithatal nan yennai nontu konden ....
THONDRI PUGALLODU TONDRUGA AITILAR THONDRI THONDARAMAIYE NANDRU... YENDAR kural unakaga valluvar yeluthnar polum.
- From: Seetharaman (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Mon Apr 24 00:19:45 EDT 2000
Please dont even compare kannadasan to a guy who
records tunes and takes it home and asks his wife to write the songs for the tune.
As a matter of fact Ponmani vairamuthu is far, far better poet than her husband.
- From: Senthil Kumar Gajapathy (@ slip-32-101-170-119.az.us.prserv.net)
on: Mon May 29 22:59:05 EDT 2000
En Vidhi appodhae therindhirundhaalae Garbaththil naanae Kalainthiruppaenae... - This is the most excellent line by Vairamuthu.(Paadariyaen... song from Sindhubhairavi)
But with Kannadhaasan, i cannot say this the THE MOST line from his lyrics.
Kannadhasan Ezhudhiyathu ellamae THE MOST.
Kannadhasan Pesiyadhu ellaamae THE MOST.
Evvalavu Yean.... Kannadhasan Suvaachiththa Kaatru kooda THE MOST thaan..
- From: Vigneswaran (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Thu Jun 22 23:59:44 EDT 2000
Kavinyargalai oppiddu parkaiyil.....
Kannadasanne siranthavan solvathaivida....tamil kaviyin maanathai( dignity) kaarthaven endru sollvathe migaiye.....
Tamil kaviyin katpaiye virtkhe ninaipaven....
Avan tamil kaviyai kaatkemadan...kuudikoduppan....
Avan aluthum ovvoru paadal variyum kochaiyanavai...utharanam.....Padaiyapavin 'Sutti- Sutti Vanthige....
Tamil le un taaiyannal...ni vidhum muchu tamil andral.....ni svasikkum katre tamilanal.....Engey uhn taaiyin perumai?...Engey uhn muchin oosai?...Engey anthe kathrin stuham......
Vairamuthu.....ni tamilukke orr kedhu......
- From: alagu (@ wmu-55-119.tm.net.my)
on: Tue Jul 4 12:53:05 EDT 2000
Kannadasan & Vairamuthu both are contributor to
Tamil Thai so "Pugalunggal" Elivu Paduthatirgal
- From: vigneswaran (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Thu Jul 6 21:17:42 EDT 2000
ningal sonna varthaigal mikkaiyai irunthal...apppadiye seithuvidalam
ninggel solvatho oppukolleve mudiyathe ondre...
nan vairamuthu vai ellivu paduthevillai....
- From: Srinivasan.T (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Mon Jul 31 11:25:43 EDT 2000
If Vairamuthu is INTELLIGENT;
Kanndasan is GENIUS;
Please no more comparisons between them.
Inimitable Kannadasan " Naan niranthiramanavan
Azhivathu ellai, entha nilayilum ennakku
maranam ellai" .
- From: mangal (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sun Aug 6 04:09:35 EDT 2000
comparison between kannadasan and vairamuthu
kannadasan ---- p.g ( post graduate)
vairamuthu ---- l.k.g(lower kinder garden)
- From: Krishnamoorthy (@ )
on: Mon Aug 14 23:41:10 EDT 2000
Kannathasan- avar vaalntha kaalanthil kaviyarasar.
Vairamuthu- naam valum kaalathil kaviyarasar.
kannadasan vaalntha kaalathil niraiya per thathuvathai virumbinaargal. Athanaal avan thathuvam paadinaan.
Vairamuthu kaalathil anaivarum kavarchiyai virumbugirom... athanaal avan kavarchiyaagha paadugiraan.
Kannadaasan ethaiyum puthithaaga sollavillai! Pattinathar paadaathathaiyaaa... valluvan sollathathaiya... kamban eluthathaiya kannadasan paadivittan?! kannadasan ilakkiyathai elimai paduthinaan.. athanaal avan Kaviyarasan.
Vairamuthu ilakkiyathai intha kaalathilum moliyai purakkanithukkondiruppavarukku mathiyil vaala vaithu kondirukkiran.. athanaal avanum Kaviyarasan.
Kavinyargalai..cinema paadalgalai mattum vaithu varaiyarukka koodathu. Avargalin kavithailai ilakkiya padaippukkalai kondu mattume nirnayikka vendum. Saandrorgal palarum sernthu... iruvaraiyum kaviyarasargal endru arivitha piraghum... anggighaaram petru ariyaatha siruvarghal naam avargalin thiramaiyai patri pesuvathu..vethanaikkuriyathu. Oru Tamilanai Tamilargale ilivu paduthum avalam engum irukkirathu. Ippoluthu inaiyathaiyum athu vittu vaikka villai! Aiyagho... Enna kodumaiyithu..?
Innum konjam naal sendral namathu pillaighal Kambana? valluvana? Endru elli naghaiyaaduvaarghal pol irukkirathu...
- From: gatsby (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Aug 18 14:09:25 EDT 2000
recently impressed lines from the song Pacchai nirame...- Alaiypaayythe
...puthithai pirantha ratha roja
boomi thodaa pillaiyim paatham...
enjoyed these lines after a long time.
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