The Miss World 1996 show had music composed by Ilayaraja. Anyone aware of its availability on CD/cassette?

The Miss World 1996 show had music composed by Ilayaraja. Anyone aware of its availability on CD/cassette? The Miss World 1996 show had music composed by Ilayaraja. Anyone aware of its availability on CD/cassette?

Topic started by Indu (@ ts15-6.slip.uwo.ca) on Sun Feb 15 09:15:15 EST 1998.
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From: gOpAl (@ 1cust16.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sun Feb 15 13:06:51 EST 1998

Kumdham pAmaran moolamAga Raajavai kizhiththadhudhAn theriyum. vErondrum aRiyOm.....
From: Nithin Sreedevan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Sun Feb 15 14:08:23 EST 1998

Hi, Indu

That is a very good question, I have been asking for over a year. However, I was fortunate to have that event on video tape. IR's music is the score for the entire program. The audio is not very clear. However, I got it taped to really have this joint event of Amitabh's and IR's on record. I believe, according to Sathya that the CD is going to be market soon.
From: Gokul (@ 173-107-57.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Feb 15 14:25:47 EST 1998

Gopal,

What was the gist of Kumudam's Story? Can u mail me?
From: gOpAl (@ 1cust13.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sun Feb 15 15:55:41 EST 1998

Gokul:
I will email you.
From: Indira Ayyar (@ ts13-15.slip.uwo.ca) on: Sun Feb 15 16:55:31 EST 1998

Thanks Nitin: it's good to know the music might be available soon. Watching the video with its terrible audio wasn't fun. One also experiences outrage that IR's contribution was neither publicized nor acknowledged (except for a listing of his name with a couple of others at the fag end with the closing credits...)
Gopal avargale: idarkkum IRajavai kiziththaargala?
Please elaborate.
One more query: does anyone know about IR's "panchamukhi"concert performed during the 94-95 music season? It would be great to be able to hear a recording.
Indu.
From: sree (@ lakshya.cs.concordia.ca) on: Sun Feb 15 17:10:15 EST 1998

Hope the CD of MISS world 96 is released soon.I recorded the audio track in cassette from TV when the program was live and i really enjoyed the music.The voilin piece in GOA related dance,song in malayam and song on krishna were very nice.
From: RAJAN (@ proxy-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Sun Feb 15 18:29:41 EST 1998

Those who missed the PAMARAN kaditham to Illayaraja, Pl. read that thread in the archieve.

Can any one put a pointer for that thread?
From: gOpAl (@ 1cust229.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Mon Feb 16 11:58:44 EST 1998

I understand (thamizh) people did not like IR scoring music for a beauty pageantry.

I reproduce the Kumudham stuff here:

begin::

"angalAikka ninaiththa vishayam azhagippOtti"

"eththanaippEr yedhirththa vishayam adhu. yedhirththa aththunaippErum mutpOkkALargaL alla enbadhu vEru vishayam."

"unnai unardhalilEyEperum pozhudhu pOyvitta padiyAl, pennaiunara thavarivittAi"

"pennai bOgapporuLAkkum oru izhivAna nigazhchchiyil unadhu isaiyum inaindhu kondadhu yEttRukkOLLa iyalAdha varuththamdhAn. 'pen' kuriththa puridhal irundhirukkumEyAnAl, nilAkkAyvadhum, siththerumbu kadippadhum unadhu isaiyil arangEri irukkAdhu. kuppaiththottikku pOgavEndiya sila pAdalgaL unadhu isaiyin valimaiyAl gOburaththin uchchiyilE pOy utkArndhu kondadhanai oththukkondudhAn AagavEndum."

"iniya rAsaiyA, ivaiyellam nee nimirndhu pArthAlEyE ninru vidakkoodiya vishayangaLdhAn"

vettaveLIdhanil kottikkidandha unadhu ezhuththukkaLai yettippArththEn. adhil :
nAm indha samOOgaththin angam. nammil oru mAtram nigazhAmal-adhu indha samOOgaththil nigazhappOvadhillai yendru yezhudhi irundhAai. idhuvum unmaidhAn rAsaiyA. AanAl idhumattumE pOdhumAnadhAgappadavillai. thannai unardhalukku idaiyE icchamOOgaththin avalangaLukku yedhirAga nAm suttuviralaiyAvadhu asaiththuthAn AagavEndum......"

end::

I agree with Kumudham in one respect. IR should not have agreed to score music for this function.
IR is also a good thinker, philosopher and a philanthropist. He is one among the very few in TN who can openly critisize the goings-on in various walks of life. He has always come down heavily on the existing political idealogy in TN, thanx to his songs, as he used them as his platform. A quick recollection of such songs?
1. Chinna thambi from PoonchOlai
2. Thalaivan oruththan varanum from kattapanchAyaththu. (He blasts off the then CM of TN for 'her' politics)The words he uses (mu mEtha)
in the song is just apt and great. And Raaja goes ahead and sings the song and that carries a bigger punch.
3. U M thambi songs nanjai undu, akkam pakkam (the credit should go to KB for that movie)

His 'vetta veLiyil....' book too carries a lot of samooga seerthiruththa ennangaL. May be all this because he struggled in his teens to establish himself, and may be because he had his mentor pAvalar VaradharAjan in mind, always, who sang songs for political parties on stage and made a living, and who lost his life in penury, after being deserted by politicians.

Now, coming to the topic, I support Kumudham in that IR, having said so many things either thro press, songs, books, etc., why should he accept an assignment that is directly related to belittling
the quality and character of womenhood in India.
I mean the pageantry!! Should he accept this assignment, at least at this juncture in his career?

I dont find any hold in Kumudham's argument in that IR is a philosopher, and his assignments in the film industry are already in that direction, as one would accept the fact that our film industry is already conducting 'fashion shows' 'catwalks' 'parades' on the silver screen.
So why pick IR in this case??

Last but not the least, KUMUDHAM has no locus standi to question anyone in such subjects, as
it is Kumudham that started the ugly 'pOttis' of 'find the owner of either the lips, or the hips and you get Rs 500 inAm'. Even today Kumudham's photos of female stars of South India are 'more revealing' than the photos that are meant to 'reveal more' in some magazines of the expected kind.

"nammil oru mAtram nigazhAmal-adhu indha samOOgaththil nigazhappOvadhillai"

----- Kumudham dear, do this first!! Talk next!!
From: Nithin Sreedevan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Wed Feb 18 18:43:36 EST 1998

I think this Kumudam and the criticism that Raja should not belittle womanhood in India has no basis. The pageantry was presenting as a backdrop to the event, the various cultures of India in the form of dance and music. That was perhaps the strongpoint of the event, when a lot of talented artistes could field their skills to a global audience.

I understand the Raja did not give music to the pageantry events themselves, for instance the swimsuit contest. For those, some western dance music was played, quite appropriately.
From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Wed Feb 18 20:47:01 EST 1998

Thanks Gopal for reproducing the Article.
From: Rags (@ stingray.cincom.com) on: Tue May 4 03:17:29 EDT 1999

I find the arguments rather trifle - I mean why shouldn't IR score music for a Miss World paegent ? Afterall the entire show was live, reaching a massive global audience with International sponsorships, and an opportunity to show case the 'Indian' music...and what not.

And BTW, the Miss World was much less 'belittling' the womanhood than some of the scores of IR picturised on Tamil screens !!!
From: ravitds (@ ) on: Sun May 5 15:25:32 EDT 2002

can i unload that cassttee is it available
From: pamaran (@ 203.195.200.2) on: Thu May 9 03:30:03 EDT 2002

nanbarkale!
vanakkam.
vivaatham paarththEn. good.
"theruvorak kurippukal" paditheerkaLAa? eppadi?
anbudan,
pamaran
From: pamaran (@ 203.195.200.2) on: Thu May 9 03:31:40 EDT 2002

neram iruppin thodarpu kollungkaL.
pamaran@indiatimes.com
From: muprabhu (@ 202.140.151.170) on: Sat May 24 03:22:33 EDT 2003

pamarans criticsm about IR IS correct
thank u
From: Jason (@ 195.93.33.7) on: Sat Aug 30 05:37:39 EDT 2003

Does anyone know what whats the name of the background music played at Miss World 1998 @ Seychelles? This music was played while the contestants showed off their gowns in threes.

Please email me please.
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