Nonsense in Tamil songs
Nonsense in Tamil songs
Topic started by Vadi Velu (@ 202.184.134.10) on Thu Jul 24 22:17:34 EDT 1997.
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- From: Vadi Velu (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Jul 24 22:25:16 EDT 1997
As some people have mentioned in some of their discussion, there are a lot of nonsense lyrics in Tamil songs. Can we discuss some?
In Kamalahassan's Vikram, there is one whole verse sung in nonsense. The song is En jodi manja kuruvi.
I loved Kakakakikikikukakakeykukukukeykey in Singara Velan!
Another Kamalahasan song is Marugo marugo marugoyi
Remember "Jaanku jakku janakku jakku jaanku jakku jaahn"?
I wonder what is the inspiration behind these songs?
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Fri Jul 25 00:29:56 EDT 1997
"En jodi manja kuruvi" lines are supposed to be in
some language rhyming with Mesapatomiyaa,
invented by Gangei Amaran.
- From: Nammaooruvalen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jul 25 04:45:06 EDT 1997
Strange lyrics and their composers:
Dinggiri dinggaley Meenachi - ??
Ikuchay ikuchay ikuchaya - IR
Kuluvaliley Muthu - ARR
Sikapu Lolaku (the beginning) - Deva
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148)
on: Fri Jul 25 06:00:17 EDT 1997
If you see the movie, you'll know that
Kuluvali is the name of a place in Kerala.
Deva has used some Rajasthani folk song in the
beginning of sivappu lolaakku.
How come noone is taking up "lolaakku dol dappimaa"?
- From: Isai Priyan (@ proxyf8.cyberway.com.sg)
on: Fri Jul 25 06:30:53 EDT 1997
and how about , Mukkala Mukkabula ?
- From: PG (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Jul 25 09:28:06 EDT 1997
Also Papa Rooba Dilruba from Poonjalai.
Pepsi, Mixie, Gypsy song from Mr Romeo
- From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79)
on: Fri Jul 25 09:33:53 EDT 1997
oh nari pani puri was the worst since
songs from Indhu (pavitharan has a great
taste)
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Jul 25 11:26:38 EDT 1997
cho lare cho cho lare kadhal seidhal - Ullasam
Kucchi Kucchi Rakkama ponnu venum eh Koodasali Rakkama ponnu venum - Bombay
pandiyanin Rajiyathil Uyyalala - Pandian
- From: ravi (@ ww-ty02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Jul 26 01:29:29 EDT 1997
Jhingidi jhingidi janakku - Guru Sishyan
samba samba o samba orey - Love Birds
- From: NO Valen (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Jul 28 05:22:03 EDT 1997
Eena Meena Deena
Rambam bam arambam
BTW noticed that all these monsensical lyrics are contained in fast numbers and never in sentimental and love songs? Anyone dare to differ?
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Mon Jul 28 10:56:15 EDT 1997
To Nammooru:
I think "pandiyanin rajiyathil uyyalala" and "Kuchhi Kuchhi Rakkamma" are love songs. Isn't it?
- From: ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Tue Jul 29 08:08:17 EDT 1997
All this time we have been concentrating on lyrical nonsense. How about factual-nonsense for a change? I don't remember how this song starts nor the movie (it is a duet came in 92 or 93). One piece of lyrics in this song goes like this;
'muzhichirundhu moonam pirai pathu' - As far as I know 'moonam pirai' (third day moon after Amavasai) stays only for a brief time (30 mts) on the horizon early in the evening (6:30 - 7:30). One doesn't have to 'muzhichhu' to see moonam pirai. Any comments?
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Tue Jul 29 11:01:38 EDT 1997
To Ravi:
In the song "poomalai vangi vandhal" in Sindhu Bhairavi, the verses
"kaiyil kinnam pidithuvittan
kudikkindran koppaiyai udaithuvittan
....
Manathin Manathai vangivittan".
"Manathin manathai vangivittan" - The kavignar seems to go in a cyclic loop to explain what manam, rosham, soodu, suranai etc. When you think these words you mind will be busted.
Reg. Muzhichirundhu song what I understand is that in Winter waking up early is difficult and probably the kavignar meant that. 8.00 manikku muzhikkum makkalai neengal parthathe illayo!
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Tue Jul 29 20:56:35 EDT 1997
In the song "kaala kaalamaaga vaazhum"(punnagai
mannan"), there is a line which goes like
"bandham nam bhandham endrendrum theeppandhame" !!
- From: ravi (@ 39.richmond-001.va.dial-access.att.net)
on: Tue Jul 29 21:54:18 EDT 1997
cp:
I remember the song and the movie now. Ada mAnamaduraiyile maliigapoou - kovil kaLai. Again 'moonam pirai' can be seen only in the early EVENING (i think you read that as morning). Kavignar just wanted to have a rhyming 'mu' in that line. That's all
- From: Satish Subramanian (@ cs-line16.cs.umn.edu)
on: Tue Jul 29 23:25:14 EDT 1997
"Pandiyanin Raajiyathil Uyyalala" song is not nonsense. "Uyyalala" means prosperity. "Uy" in Tamil means "to flourish".
Ennapa thalaivar paata poi ippidi nonsense adhu-idhu nu sollarenga?
- From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79)
on: Wed Jul 30 01:41:09 EDT 1997
There are some songs which appears to have
some lyric but will be absolute crap. like
one in vaigasi porandachu
thennai ilam pooveduthu oduginra thendralaipol
un noolidayil nool eduthu noorukadai nan sollava
(some thing like this)
what ?? thendral, thennai, nool, kathai ??
'tottabetta rotula mutta batotta' is better than
this.
- From: PG (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Wed Jul 30 09:28:29 EDT 1997
How about
Oh Ranga Sri Ranga kopparai thengai
from Singara Velan written by the King Of Nonsense
The Great Gangai Amaran.
50% of G.A's lyrics are nonsense lyrics.
To start :
Vaadi En kappa kizhange - A.Oyvathillai
Paapa Rooba Dilruba - Pooncholai
Naghma Naghma - Poonchalai
Vairamuthu's junk :
Thee Thee thikkum thee - Thiruda Thiruda
- From: PG (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Wed Jul 30 09:33:37 EDT 1997
Aynilo Pakkiriyama by NSK and TAMathuram. NSK supposedly sings in a foreign language. In the middle of the song he sings in 'Ka' na bashai.
'Ka'Vaa 'Ka'Th 'Ka'thu - means Vaththu (duck). You add a Ka before every letter. This song is hilarious.
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8)
on: Wed Jul 30 23:24:01 EDT 1997
'pakiriyaamaa' also has something else. He says 'oraiyilE thakkaaru'!! It means 'tharaiyilE okkaaru'. Write 'tharaiyilE okkaru' in thamizh and swap the first letters of the two words. You get 'oraiyilE thakkaaru'. I won't call it junk.
Morover words (phrases) like 'uyialaalaa', 'kakakaakikikUku', 'laalaakku dOL dappi', 'vaadi en kappakizhangE' etc can be excused because they are just filler words added for fun. mElum, thalaivar paattai non-sense endRu kURuvathai naanum (alongwith Satish Subramanian) kadumaiyaaka aatchEbikkiREn.
'Real' nonsense is, as rightly pointed out by PG, 'thee thee thiththikkum thee' and the alike. Vairamuthu is an uncrowned emperor in this. Look at this song 'thenmERkkup paruvakkaatRu' from 'karuththammaa'
naan endRum nee endRum iru vaarthai illaamal naam endRa Or vaarthai uNdaanathE (ada!! paravaayillaiyE!!)
aaN endRum peN endRum iru vaarthai illaamal aaL endRa Or vaarthai uNdaanathE
What does this mean?
One can quote many such instances like 'telephOn maNilOl'. Like 'dhindukkal' I Leoni asked in a pattimanRam, 'oru poNNu telephOn maadhiri sirichchaa, avaLai evanaavadhu kattuvaanaa?'
Like his vulgar-phrases list, the nonsense-phrases list is also very long
- From: Satish Subramanian (@ pulsar.cs.umn.edu)
on: Thu Jul 31 16:21:25 EDT 1997
Aravind,
Vairamuthu's line in "Karuthamma" is
"aan endrum pen endrum iru vaarthai ondraagi,
thaai endra or varthai undaanadhey"
Idhu nonsense ya?
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Thu Jul 31 17:07:43 EDT 1997
I think this song in "Amaran" was written only for nonsense:
Sande bajaaru mama konja ushaaru
altappu rani akasha vani
kultappa pona thangathu meni
iravum paganulam nadakkum inge thaana(?) bajaaru
bombaiyi bala jigiri dhosthu
koltappu lala bada joru
- sariyana cheri song!
And in the song
"chalakku chalakku selai" - does "chelakku" have any meaning?
In
"jimpa jayapaditha panidiyanthaan,
adi jimpa edhirpa romba parthavanthaan"
- jimpa edhuthukko?
And,
"Marugo marugo marugayi
Jorugo jorugo jorugayi"
- is this any indian language other than tamil?
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Thu Jul 31 21:03:53 EDT 1997
"Marugo marugo" is supposed to be some
Goan song(kongani).
Aravind, 'laalaakku dol dappi' filler
phrase-nu sonnaa, ithukku enna solrathu
"achak pachak dimikadikkira dolumayya dabsa uttaanpaaru kapsaa
apsakallu maariyaa aathupakkam vaariyaa"
ennayya, oru alave illayaa!
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8)
on: Thu Jul 31 22:40:16 EDT 1997
Satish
You have confused me. naan pala thadavai andha paattai kEttirukkEn. I still think that it is 'aaL' and not 'thaai'. Even if it is 'thaai', is it not irrelevent, though not non-sensical. Anyway, I will listen clearly to the song, whenever I get a chance to listen to it, and confirm on this. adhuvarai, comments reserved.
Rajaraman
ippadi ellaam madakki kELvi kEkkak kUdaathu!! adhu jolly paattu. Freeyaa vudunga!!
- From: ravi (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 08:03:58 EDT 1997
satish & aravind
That 'karuththamma' song has 'thai' not 'AaL' Anyway 'thai' makes more sense that 'AaL'. Probably vairamuthu meant that the role of a 'thai' has no gender. I'm simply guessing.
- From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 14:43:40 EDT 1997
Nadhiya nadhiya nile nadhiya
- From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com)
on: Fri Aug 1 14:49:23 EDT 1997
Meri pyaari
bambaai naari
pani poori
song from some Vijay starrer.
A few songs from recent Karthik starrers had songs written by a newcomer named Kalidhasan (what a name to write junk, He should probable use Kalamegam's name). This guy wrote a song (in Pisthaa) with 108 names of edibles and in another movie he wrote a song with 108 amman names.
- From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27)
on: Fri Aug 1 15:27:02 EDT 1997
To PG:
Nadhiya nadhiya nile nadhiya - Nadhiya means rivera,
it could be translated as follows
rivera rivera nile rivera - ennu thappunnu ippa sollunga?(nile is a river,isn't it?)
It cannot be said as nonsense.
- From: Satish Subramanian (@ pulsar.cs.umn.edu)
on: Fri Aug 1 20:52:49 EDT 1997
Ravi & Aravind,
"Karuthamma" song line innummaa puriyala?
Konjam yosichchu paarunga (remove the word
"varthai" from the line and read it again).
- From: Heeheehee (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Aug 1 22:56:09 EDT 1997
Sariyaana potti!
- From: Ravi (@ ww-tc22.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Aug 2 11:15:16 EDT 1997
Satish:
To be fair to Vairamuthu, let's assume that he tried to glorify the motherhood and not the way you pointed out.
- From: Ravi (@ ww-te02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Aug 2 14:22:03 EDT 1997
I just listened to this song. Now it sounds like AaL rather than thai. Someone clarify.
- From: Nathan (@ jhb-40-194.tm.net.my)
on: Sun Nov 9 06:18:29 EST 1997
I do agree with you guys, sometimes it is rubbish
written by tamil movie song writers but are they going to change, !!! NEVER!!!, I think. LEONY had
been telling this for a long time, any improvement. What about some words in the some devotional songs, like kantha shashti kawasam.
words like ra ra ra ra and so on, that also does not carry any meaning but it was written few thousand years ago. Do any of you like to commenton that.
I am an active internet member, please call me
especially tamil speaking people.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Thu Nov 20 18:27:45 EST 1997
An innocent mistake
ANdukku ANdu thEdhikkuth thEdhi
Ayiram irukkuthu shubhadhinam
1000?
(adikka varAdhInga.)
- From: Ramya (@ s70n143.resnet.geneseo.edu)
on: Mon Apr 13 16:25:09 EDT 1998
In Karuthamma, it's aal not thaai. I'm positive that it's right. End of mystery!!!!
- From: Priya (@ palo9.pacific.net.sg)
on: Tue Mar 2 10:21:27 EST 1999
IT'S NOT THEE THEE THITHIKUM THEE
IT'S THEN THEN THITHIKUM THEN
PLS HEAR CAREFULLY BEFORE CRITICISING
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