Topic started by TAMIZHISAIPATRON (@ 128.227.80.32) on Wed Jul 30 20:17:08 EDT 1997.
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• From: vijay (@ 129.252.27.248) on: Sat Jul 18 19:22:08 EDT 1998
  
  is vaali the one who wrote the lyrics for indu? then he has scaled new heights in vulgarity! there is no double meaning at all.everything is explicit. pavithran, the most perverted director ever to take tamil films, who brought down the standard of tamil films by directing suriyan,indu etc. should have had a hand in these songs.
  people like him should rot and die on the road like stray dogs.
  
  
• From: SAM (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg) on: Sun Jul 19 07:11:49 EDT 1998
  
  Hi I'm too new to this section but wants to know my comments. VERY SIMPLE!!! THINK GOOD BEHAVE GOOD Why would you want to dig what is it between the lines and what is in the writer's mind? Your job as a listener just to listen to the musics. Further up take the lyrics in good terms I mean in the positive way. THINK BOUT' IT
  BYE
  
  
• From: peesoo (@ horus.erlm.siemens.de) on: Mon Jul 20 09:54:05 EDT 1998
  
  Rajaraman, Ravi, SSK Sir,
  
  indha maadhiri oru aabasamaana thread namma TFM-kku thEvai thaanaa? Explicit-a vargaLai mention paNNurachchE, thaai-k-kulangaL neLiyum padiyaa irukku! Its a well known fact that many of the tamil songs are very bad in lyrics & special effects! aana, andha saakkadai'yai naama En kiLaranum'ngrathu thaan kElvi.
  
  makkaL rasikkaraanga! athunaala thaan ipdi senjOm'nu orE variyila mudichchuttu pOiruvaanga, namma cine-field aaLunga! [may be we can post a letter to them saying that we dont want these cheap stuff'nu oru letter anuppittu, ithai niruththikkalaam!]
  
  
• From: Ramanan (@ faraday.bfsec.bt.co.uk) on: Mon Jul 20 11:23:17 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  I am new to this. The songs of the older generation have been poetic in their depiction of love and other things. They have never been explicit. You have got to really analyse the songs to understand the hidden meaning.
  But the songs of this present generation have been very explicit in the depiction of love and the relation between Man and Woman.
  The way females have been treated in the songs is a topic for another forum and not this.
  There is only one question we have to ask ourselves. What are we trying to achieve by this discussion? Because we know very well that the std of tamil film songs have come down very much.
  How are we going to improve the standard of tamil film songs ? May be this question is a better topic for discussion than the present one.
  
  
• From: harichandra (@ guardian.gov.sg) on: Fri Jul 31 01:51:19 EDT 1998
  
  why you are not at all discussing about the song,
  
  ellantha palam elantha palam , ithu chekka chivantha palam, - - -
  ethhanaiyo perita evvalavo pathiyae engitta pathhathu pol immam perisu pathiya,
  
  
  naan ealu vasila elani vithava , pathinalu vasila nilachhu ninnava,
  
  
  eppadi eppadi samanjathu eppadi(indu)
  
  uralau onnu angirukku , ulakkai onnu ingirukku , nellu kutha nearm etthu cholldi en chithiramae,
  - - -
  
  nellu kutha edam kodutha mattikkuva uralukullae
  (indu).
  
  rathiriel poothirukkum tamarai thaan pennum,
  - - - - -
  manganigal thotilllae thunguthadi angae mannavanin pasiyara , malaiyilae parmara(thnga mahan).
  
  Don't blame IR for amma , hmmmm etc etc , these are all the lyrics written by lyrics writer and not the musician and compared to ARR , IR is thousand time better ,
  first try to know the difference between
  musician and lyrics writer before talking anything about IR ok.
  
  he is the gem , since he is from lower cast nowadys balachandar , maniratnam are avoiding IR,
  since they have the option IR or ARR,
  BEFORE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OPTION OTHER THAN MAESTRO,
  
  FINALLY LYRICS ARE WRITTEN BY LYRICS WRITER AND NOT BY MUSISCIAN mr unmai vilamabi
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: harichandra (@ guardian.gov.sg) on: Fri Jul 31 01:51:44 EDT 1998
  
  why you are not at all discussing about the song,
  
  ellantha palam elantha palam , ithu chekka chivantha palam, - - -
  ethhanaiyo perita evvalavo pathiyae engitta pathhathu pol immam perisu pathiya,
  
  
  naan ealu vasila elani vithava , pathinalu vasila nilachhu ninnava,
  
  
  eppadi eppadi samanjathu eppadi(indu)
  
  uralau onnu angirukku , ulakkai onnu ingirukku , nellu kutha nearm etthu cholldi en chithiramae,
  - - -
  
  nellu kutha edam kodutha mattikkuva uralukullae
  (indu).
  
  rathiriel poothirukkum tamarai thaan pennum,
  - - - - -
  manganigal thotilllae thunguthadi angae mannavanin pasiyara , malaiyilae parmara(thnga mahan).
  
  Don't blame IR for amma , hmmmm etc etc , these are all the lyrics written by lyrics writer and not the musician and compared to ARR , IR is thousand time better ,
  first try to know the difference between
  musician and lyrics writer before talking anything about IR ok.
  
  he is the gem , since he is from lower cast nowadys balachandar , maniratnam are avoiding IR,
  since they have the option IR or ARR,
  BEFORE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OPTION OTHER THAN MAESTRO,
  
  FINALLY LYRICS ARE WRITTEN BY LYRICS WRITER AND NOT BY MUSISCIAN mr unmai vilamabi
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Jul 31 05:00:12 EDT 1998
  
  PeeSoo,
  I totally agree with u.Ravi why don't U remove this topic.This is my humble request.
  
  
• From: Ramanan (@ faraday.bfsec.bt.co.uk) on: Fri Jul 31 05:29:47 EDT 1998
  
  I don't want to repeat myself. But as i have told already, if we want to find any solution to this problem then we can continue with the discussion. Or else we can drop the topic.
  1) There are some movies which under the garb of educating people, show porn . we are doing something along those lines. We are not saying anything new by repeating here that tamil film songs are vulgar.
  2) Either we change the course of discussion and discuss how to bring about a change in this trend or change the topic to 'the nadir reached by tamil film songs in depicting vulgarity' and discuss all the songs thread bare.
  3) What is the need to talk about caste in the whole thing ?
  4) Admiration for anyone's act is one thing. But blind worship is something that will not let us see the true picture.
  I can see that some of you are doing exactly that in the case of IR. There is no doubt that he is a genius. but that doesn't in anyway absolve him from what he has done. He has to fully owe responsibility for all the bad songs under his composition.
  Not for nothing, are they called the music directors.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri Jul 31 09:52:28 EDT 1998
  
  I always knew this was a thread on the edge. :-). I guess it is time to call it a game.