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- From: M. Diwakar (@ j17.jrc22.jaring.my)
on: Fri May 29 21:44:50 EDT 1998
It is a pity that a topic like this has degenerated into personal affronts against individuals and classes. Upper class and middle-class - I mean what the hell! If we are all on this forum, it is because music is the common thread. And this is a DISCUSSION Forum not a fighting stage. Will it not be better to keep any acrimony out of our discussions?
My aim in not to praise the one and pillory the other. The topic makes sense - in a way. If at all IR has to receive an award, why should it stop at the Padmashri?
Both MS and IR have done enough and more to deserve the awards. As discussed in another thread, awards do not make the artist. It is a reflection of our ignorance if we decide on the merits or otherwise of an artist based on the awards received.
Let music be above these petty thoughts.
- From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu)
on: Sat May 30 00:44:47 EDT 1998
It is a pity that this thread had to be revived... I am consiging it to the archives again.
- From: PRABHU (@ )
on: Fri Jan 19 20:47:18 EST 2001
Where is MS? Where is IR? No comparison at all! IR was just a successful MD doing light music in novelty with the LIGHT MUSIC FORMULA CREATED BY THE ONE AND THE ONLY MAESTRO M.S.VISWANATHAN. You can call IR a latest melody trend modifier only. MS took Classical music to masses along with doyens like Sirkazi Govindarajan. MSV took the film light music to the masses with Kannadasan and others. KVM, MSV and other stalwarts are yet to get their Padmashri identity. IR should realise what and where he stands before aspiring. He is neither a trend setter like MSViswanathan nor ARR to make the world over sing Vande Mataram (for which he was honoured).
MSV can be compared to MS(MS Subbulakshmi who got Bharat Ratna), but SURELY NOT IR!
- From: PRATHAP (@ )
on: Wed Apr 11 15:50:46 EDT 2001
i have one question to prabu who has given his views on this topic. do u know anythimg about music or illayaraja?if arr deserves a padmashri IR deserves bharat ratna. dont compare music remixers like rahman to the maestro. for ur kind information i've collected 47 songs from which arr copied, its shorly going to be released in a web site(most probably musiccurry.com)
arr is no where near to the genius of IR.
MUSIC IS RAJA AND RAJA IS MUSIC.
- From: SRIKANTH (@ )
on: Tue Jul 17 05:45:04 EDT 2001
these IR fans are real idiots.
MS Subbalaxmi is a real legend and a national figure. U want to compare IR to her.
U are stupid.
IRs music lacks melody. The title of this thread itself is so stupid.
Please stop degrading a great performer like MS Subbalaxmi.
- From: LV (@ )
on: Thu Jul 19 07:43:41 EDT 2001
Yes I agree very much. These HCFIRs will slander even a noble person and a legendary person like MS Subbalaxmi to prove their points, i.e. if they have any AT ALL.
- From: LV (@ )
on: Sat Jul 28 02:04:32 EDT 2001
dont compare music remixers like rahman to the maestro
ARR is as good a composer as IR - like it or not.
Its a bitter pill for idiots like u to swallow that ARR has achieved great success.
Thats why u HCFIRs slander him all the time. But tone deaf people cannot be convinced.
MS Subbalaxmi is an absolute stalwart.
The title" cannot IR get padmashri if MS can get BharatRatna" is stupid.
MS is a national figure. The depth of her voice is great. She is not just any singer . Stop comparing IR to her.
IR is just ONE of the great composers of our country. But MSS is the greatest Carnatic vocalist.
- From: Krishna (@ dialpool-210-214-126-140.maa.sify.net)
on: Sun Aug 19 09:43:11 EDT 2001
You cannot compare IR with MS. MS was devoted to the spread of carnatic music with no profit motive. Discussion on this is ridiculous ....
- From: no jalra (@ )
on: Fri Nov 23 00:40:15 EST 2001
'kasi' audio releasing tomorrow.
and raaja is composing music for a new film called 'music'.
- From: Anand S Bhasker. (@ )
on: Wed Apr 10 06:44:10 EDT 2002
When the heart of a music lover is shaken by a musician, then he or she is the real musician, be it a commercial musian like a film-music-director or a classic musician. As per me a talented musician should and must be talented just as a talented one. And when it comes to the matter of awards, its just a formal respect shown by the award commities. When a musician like Ilayaraja or M.S.Subbalakshmi has reached a perticular stage in their fields, they are not obligated to be recognised just by awards. I never prefer comparison between anything under the sun. Anand(lover of all sorts of music but not of the awarded musicians)
- From: Ravi R (@ )
on: Mon Jun 17 19:58:40 EDT 2002
What ? MS got that award ? Geeeeez...
i never cared about these guys who decide these awards anyway....
Mithun Chakravarthy got an award of some kind a long time ago.. if i remember. but Sivaji Ganesan was not honoured on the same lines...
Bahh !.. these awards mean nothing to me anyway..
i just wish IR gave back the three national awards back.. for its a bunch of hyprocites who decide who gets what.. yuck !
- From: drum (@ )
on: Fri Dec 6 22:38:51 EST 2002
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- From: dr tc mark-andoo (@ )
on: Sun May 30 13:52:41 EDT 2004
lata and ms subbulakshmi rightfully deserved their barat ratnas. they have been the true ambassodors of india and their career span goes through several generations. the sound of their names is enough and it spells divinity.these two ladies have the power of love affection and peace in person and the vibes through their voices.
see if any of the above mentioned would withstand the test of time in popularity and in spirituality.
- From: Ramya (@ )
on: Sat Sep 18 08:37:47 EDT 2004
Why you all fight for award, lets take a serious sensus on music lovers, sure MSV is deserves for Film world. MS should not be compared with IR etc., Understand.
- From: Suneel (@ )
on: Mon Dec 13 07:17:20 EST 2004
MS has recived Ramon Magsays award in 60's only.
U r comparing the greatest indian with much great composer of our time.
this is rediculas to compare one with other,
Just think why swaminathan was not given a national award?
- From: Tamizhkudimagan (@ )
on: Mon Dec 13 15:24:13 EST 2004
Dei...bunch of idiots who put balderdash on th web....MS is a saint.....Ilayaraja is a commercial musician.The simplicity, humbleness and the music from MS cannot be compared to IR.IR has whacked hell a lot of songs from western music and other forms.
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