Topic started by Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 173.norcross-08rh16rt.ga.dial-access.att.net) on Thu Aug 2 15:34:38 EDT 2001.
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We can figure this in his latest songs.
1. Mennuda Ennai Thinnuda - Indian
2. Enakkana Perundheeni I like you - Citizen
3. Uyirodu ennai nee thinnada - Citizen
4. Thinnadhe Thinnadhe - Parthen Rasithen
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Thu Aug 2 18:23:20 EDT 2001
good observation :-) It concurs with my opinion that he is a bit sadistic in his metaphors,similies and imagination too :-)
poopparikka kOdari edharku
pookaLai kiLLuvadhaal raththam varumaa
- From: ravi (@ guardian.aig.com)
on: Thu Aug 2 20:27:51 EDT 2001
MS, what's sadistic abt 'poopparikka kOdari edharku ' ? but i do agree with the other examples, and agree that VM is sometimes sadistic and violent in his imagination. (thinnathe was the most disgusting lyrics i have ever heard)
another example : 'pagaivanai veTTith thalai koNdu nadaiyedu padaiyappA' ! What a horrible glorification of violence !
- From: eden (@ dialpool-210-214-5-240.maa.sify.net)
on: Fri Aug 3 01:29:14 EDT 2001
Is `adi manadhai aruvA maNaiyil aRukkuRiyE' by VM too? (Mudhalvan)
- From: NagaS (@ lan-202-144-74-140.maa.sify.net)
on: Fri Aug 3 02:15:11 EDT 2001
Yes, aruvaamanai stuff is by Vairamuthu.
One more latest example for his violent imagination is 'Dupattaavil ennaik kattith thukkil podaathee'., (Majnu)
Earlier examples - 'Vaanavillai naan kaettaal aNNankaL udaiththuth tharuvaarkaL' (Jodi), 'Pooppoolee iruntha manathindRu moongil pol vedikkuthadi sagiyee' (Nerukku ner) and many more. I am really sick with such approach towards something as soft as love.
'Mennuda ennaith thinnuda' is by Vaali (Maaya Macheendra)
- From: manu (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Fri Aug 3 05:51:49 EDT 2001
that line "pagaivanai vetti thalai kondu nadayidu padayappa "is lifted from thiruppugazh (the first song of arunagairinathar that starts off as "muthaitharu pathi thirunagai...")
the line goes as
actually the songs tune is also lifted from thiruppugazh only...
as far as vm is concerned...sadistic views he does write but why do they become popular....i think some thiings are hidden in most of us that we are afraid/ conciously or unconciously restrain ourselves from writing, practising or doing ....that is most probably why such songs do become popular...
- From: Dubugu Raja (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Fri Aug 3 07:35:48 EDT 2001
Well, VM is a good lyricist no doubt about that,but of late, he has been trying to show off too much in his lyric, thereby making it irrelevant, meaningless and at times, disgusting..
An example in "Thom karuvil irundhom" (Star), he says
"Dhraatshai rasam kudithavan buthi saaliyaa ?
Pazha rasam kudithavan kutra vaaliyaa ?"
Yo.. idhukku ennayya artham ? Summa kaiyila ezhudhu kol irundhaa kandadhum ezhudha koodaadhu.
Needless to say, VM also tries to project (in interviews) that he is writing something useful to the society and doing some "puratchis" (like what he spoke during the making of Citizen programme. Aanaal, Citizen varigalil minjiyadhu verum emaatram dhaan).
Such people who pretend to be "puratchi" kavignars and later end up writing some non-sense, should not be encouraged. They should be thrown out.
Inspite of all this, I maintain that VM is a
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Fri Aug 3 08:07:20 EDT 2001
VM is very talented lyricist. That much only I can accept about him.
- From: NCR (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Aug 3 09:33:37 EDT 2001
If a guy like VM could write great songs before and just writing junk now there may be two reasons
He is out of his talent, he is out of imagination any more etc.,
He is just fitting some words to match the tune.
He is showing some spark now and then, so it is not true that he is completely ran out of stuff.
I think the other one might me the reason. Not for sure.
May be he is getting some odd /tough tune that he is not able to fit some words which convey good meaning , Also he has to write easy words that singers should be able to pronounce. With so many limitations, how can you expect somebody to write great lyrics all the time?
I guess he is showing his resent by putting something which really doesnt mean anything. Just my opinion.
Also the way the singers killing the words, does it really make any sense writing some great stuff?
- From: manu (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Sat Aug 4 01:26:13 EDT 2001
i think the same...that was put down well!
- From: i.kutti (@ ip105.ast7.pacifier.com)
on: Sat Aug 4 02:32:28 EDT 2001
all double meaning yo
- From: cosmician (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sat Aug 4 04:43:13 EDT 2001
My feeling is that VM is a very crafty (the craft of writing lyrics) lyricist...if he has had a renewed innings after the arrival of ARR..it means only this..he has been able to adapt to the changes of the times..we may find "thinnadhe" and "aruvamanai" violent but isn't this the general trend of lyrics everywhere in the world...the "thinnadhe" words in that song..aptly potrayed the situation of the song....where the Prashant character is being troubled with the possessive Simran character....
"Aruvamanai" and "Arukkiriye" goes aptly with the Raakshashiye character being potrayed in the song and there is also a neat alliteration in the words.
So my feeling is that VM is a very clever lyricist maintaining modernity in today's fast changing world.
- From: eden (@ dialpool-210-214-5-207.maa.sify.net)
on: Sat Aug 4 05:44:41 EDT 2001
oru pAvam village-girl-in-love'ai `rAtchasi' Akkiyadhum VM dhAnE? (I don't think that song picturisation had much to do with rAvanA or soorpanagai)...violence muthu?:-(
- From: Krishy (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sat Aug 4 05:56:06 EDT 2001
He is a work crafter for tunes. AND he is lucky!
- From: The Rock (@ )
on: Thu Aug 23 10:29:18 EDT 2001
vairamuthu sucks . hell of a blacky fellow.
- From: The Rock (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Thu Aug 23 10:33:50 EDT 2001
vairamuthu go home ma. bladi beard mama.u smell what the vairamuthu is cookiing.because he is laying his underwear.
- From: papa gunduraj (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Thu Aug 23 10:37:17 EDT 2001
vairamuthu is laying his smackdown.no no his laying his pie because his the most electrifying man in all underwearshop.tah boy. hope god will call u soon.
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